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Article #211Languages and complexity (was Re: Will Java kill C++?)
From: William D. Gooch
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 09:42
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 09:42
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In article <dbell-1104961159050001@wholder2.cts.com> dbell@shvn.com (Doug Bell) writes: > And in environments >where a large product is being produced for relatively few users, such as >American Express' internal card purchase authorization system, the >economics of the situation support the extra computing resources often >required by a highly generalized language if it reduces the cost to >implement. To what extent a generalized language or a 4GL language >reduces the cost of implementation is debatable, but certainly a case can >be made for this. It is sometimes (granted, rarely) not simply a question of reducing implementation cost or time-to-market, but getting there at all. There are real complexity barriers which can be very difficult to break through with conventional tools. These barriers don't go away once a product is released, but carry over into maintenance and enhancement also. Not quite sure how 4GL crept in there. To me, 4GL is a long way from being in the same category with languages like Lisp or Smalltalk. >Let's just say that to some extent, the answers a language *does* have >must be relative to the impact of the software which results from it. >What other measure would you apply? Define "impact." A single application, for example the Amex system, can have a tremendous impact without being very apparent to the average person. In a very real sense, it is one of the most widely used applications in existence. But if you define "impact" as "sales in a general-use market," then I disagree. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ William D. Gooch RothWell International goochb@rwi.com Texas liaison for the International Programmers Guild For information on IPG, see http://www.ipgnet.com/ipghome.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!node238.fc.net!goochb From: goochb@rwi.com (William D. Gooch) Newsgroups: comp.lang.java,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk Subject: Languages and complexity (was Re: Will Java kill C++?) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 09:42:13 Organization: RothWell International Message-ID: <goochb.330.0009B46C@rwi.com> References: <31682FFE.2781E494@bbn.com> <DpJyGG.FKK@hkuxb.hku.hk> <denatale-1004960822260001@grail1506.nando.net> <dbell-1104960125190001@wholder2.cts.com> <goochb.327.000893D1@rwi.com> <dbell-1104961159050001@wholder2.cts.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: node238.fc.net X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A]