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Subject: Re: Vegetarianism....was: , 1, 2
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See-Toh wrote:
> 
> Felix J. Thibault <fthibau@comp.uark.edu> wrote in article
> <5si6qb$hor@picayune.uark.edu>...
> > spf@mail.zynet.co.uk (Marc Forrester) writes:
> >
> > >Well, I dunno, I think it's called compassion, or something.
> > >Why should anyone else care how -you- feel?
> >
> > Is it necessarily more compassionate to be vegetarian? Farming still
> > requires habitat destruction- could the farms in the plains states of the
> > US co-exist with the buffalo that used to be there?
> 
> Humans who eat meat generally eat vegetables/plants too.
> 
> Hence humans who eat meat & plants are also responsible
> for habitat destruction as much as vegetarians do, if your
> argument holds any water at all.

The farming argument hurts the meat eaters more than the vegetarians.

As many a dietitian has pointed out, it takes anywhere from 7 to 10 lbs
of grain just to create 1 lb. of meat. Since one can often get the
protein and nutrients in 1 lb. of meat from much less than the 7 to 10
lbs. of grain, and since the meat eaters are demanding to consume
vegetation in addition to the grain used to make their meat, then by
eating meat one uses up 2 to 3 times as much farmland as does someone
who eats only vegetation.

In addition, the meat eaters are folling themselves when they eat meat
that claims to be "75% lean" and scoff at vegetarians who may consume
meat-substitutes that are sometimes twice the cost of 75% lean meat,
claiming that the vegetarian food is more expensive for the same
nutrition. They claim that they are eating something which is only 25%
fat.

What they forget is that the 75% lean rating is fat *by weight*. Say you
have a 75% lean meat patty, such as you obtain at a fast food restaurant
(no kidding). Say it weighs 4 ounces uncooked and 3 ounces cooked. At
this point it has 260 calories and 19 grams of fat. Since a gram of fat
has 9 calories, we multiply 19 times 9 and get 171 calories, or 66% of
the calories in a cooked meat patty. In other words, you get 66% of your
calories in a meat patty from fat, which is a far cry from 25% fat and
brings the vegetarian food into perspective as "less fatty".

In addition, 2% milk actually gets 38% of its calories from fat, even
though only 2% of the milk is fat. Something to think about when
attempting to laugh at vegetarians who despise milk for a rice-based
alternative that only has 10% or less of its calories from fat.

(Source: Berkeley Wellness Letter, May 1992)

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