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In article <315C8A2F.2B20@popera.compulink.co.uk>, "D.J.Walker-Morgan"
<dj@popera.compulink.co.uk> writes

>iJUGGL is the independent Java Users Group Greater London.
>
>A person (who is no longer a member of iJUGGL after this evenings 
>meeting and has never been an iJUGGL elected represetative) has been
>announcing in this group that he is in some way the official contact
>for the group. He is not.
>
>The official contacts for iJUGGL are
>
>dj@popera.compulink.co.uk
>
>and
>
>gh@compulink.co.uk
>
>The web site for iJUGGL is on http://www.compulink.co.uk/~java/
>where you'll find all about the group and when we meet. If you are
>in London (or can make it to the meetings), please get in touch.
>
>Dj (Classmanager for iJUGGL)




Dear D.J. Walker-Morgan,






    ...You have caught me completely off guard.  


    I did not expect you to write into Java cyberspace, or that you would do
so in such a way that I could Followup the above Article.


    I believe you sincerely wish to change the way things are going.  And, as
they say, a sincere belief that something is so, makes it so.


    I suspect that you might be referring to myself here:


>A person (who is no longer a member of iJUGGL after this evenings 
>meeting and has never been an iJUGGL elected represetative) has been
>announcing in this group that he is in some way the official contact
>for the group. He is not.

    
    Is this not correct?


    If you recall, I was ejected from this past Friday night's IJUGGL meeting
at Micromuse, by the building security, for disturbing the group.


    I was asking questions to Mr. Paul White, the man from Symantec, about
whether it did "Code completion", whether it had bold/underline/italic syntax
highlighting so you could look at code without being distracted by decorative
colors.  (BTW, this was my absurd justification for choosing Borland C++ 4.0
over Microsoft Visual C++ two years ago)


    Perking up at the class browser, and being very aware that only 15 or so
people were in the room this month, I asked him how much it was.  And I think
he did reply with the figure.


    At this point, having rubbed eachother up the wrong way previously, you
took me aside and told me it was very rude to interrupt a salesman during his
presentation.  I know you objected to that word "salesman" at the time, but I
can't think of the phrase you actually used.


    We probably both regret slightly, in different ways, the way things have
so far turned out at iJUGGL.  As I said, this letter is a complete
surprise...  


    ...But I admire the way you almost lost your temper completely on the way
downstairs.  _Very_ few people are able to do that nowadays.  


    And Sir, I also distinctly remember being reminded of one of Richard
Feynman's books when you immediately shot your hand up in unsurpressable
glee, and shouted "Meeeeee!!", when, at the start of his presentation, Mr.
White asked if anyone was actually using the Symantec product.


    I must clarify, make it explicit, that I have never claimed to be "in
some way the official contact for the group".  I have only offered,
implicitly, to be of help by encouraging people to come to the group, which
is, _as_far_as_I_am_aware_, still the only Java user group in the United
Kingdom.


    So, in lieu of any explicit statement, I appeal directly to your good
judgement, a recent reply by myself to an article in the iJUGGL mailing list
archives:


        http://www.compulink.co.uk/~gh/archive/ijuggl/




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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 05:29:44 +0000
To: Jefri Luland <jluland@xover.compulink.co.uk>
From: Alexander Anderson <sandy@almide.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Review of "Java in a Nutshell"
In-Reply-To: <v01530500ad7e16bd6696@[194.153.5.190]>

In message <v01530500ad7e16bd6696@[194.153.5.190]>, Jefri Luland
<jluland@xover.compulink.co.uk> writes

>I got "Java in a Nutshell" by David Flanagan last Saturday. These are my
>initial reactions.


    Thanks for your impressions.  I got Nutshell through the post from
the US.  I haven't really looked hard at it, but it's a billion times
better than that first "Java!" book I idiotically went and bought for
twice the price.


    Come on iJUGGL.  Start using this mailing list.


    It never crossed my mind to consider reviewing Nutshell for you.  


    Come on, or the cows will come out at night and start mooing.




Sandy
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    Thanks for allowing me to write to you.  I meant what I said.  Goodbye in
the meantime, and TRY AND GET MORE THAN 15 PEOPLE 


        TO AN INDEPENDENT JAVA USER GROUP GREATER LONDON MONTHLY MEETING!






Sandy
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