Re: Will Java kill C++?

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From: Jeff M Younker
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 22:35

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Brian Rogoff wrote:
> How about the ability to create new value types? Not necessarily
> low-level, as Ada 95, Eiffel, and Sather allow this, yet prevent
> the pointer madness of C and C++ (please, there is no language
> "C/C++"). Who needs this? Anyone who needs fast, compact arrays
> of user defined elements.  This means anyone who needs to write
> numerical methods, signal processing, and certain fast graphics
> algorithms in the language.
> ...
> We are already seeing the complaints on this newsgroup :-)

Value types are really cool from a conceptual point of view, but
I am not so sure that they are necessary to achieve fast numerical
code.  If my understanding is correct, Fortran 77 (the premiere
language of high speed code) treats integers, floats and complex
numbers as references.  I have yet to hear anyone complain about
the speed of Fortran code.  From this I would conclude that what
really matters is the quality of the compiler, not the
semantics of the language.

- Jeff Younker - jeff@uh.edu - These are my views, not those of UH -

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Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 16:35:31 -0600
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