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Article #159Re: Will Java kill C++?
From: Erik P. DeBenedictis
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 13:32
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 13:32
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Andrew Koenig wrote: > > In article <4k7akk$nsh@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> linden@positive.eng.sun.com (Peter van der Linden) writes: > > > Andrew Koenig <ark@research.att.com> wrote: > > >Of course, the head of Java marketing is expected to say things like this, > > >whether or not the facts strictly justify them. > > > Well Andrew, one could equally well say that a proponent, supporter, > > and author of a book on C++ would be expected to defend the C++ language > > by saying something like this, regardless of whether it is borne out by > > the evidence or not ;-) > > Of course. You should always take people's biases into account > when you evaluate what they say. ...yet even a biased person may say things that are worth listening to. I agree with Andy. Java has a lot of marketing behind it. Languages have not traditionally been the center of a lot of marketing attention. C/C++, for example, was developed by AT&T which did NOT market them as a product. Java, on the other hand, is the subject of major marketing efforts by Sun. There are "Java days," for example, where Sun loads a circus tent with a thousand people and provides free food. Thus, I don't find Java's popularity at all surprising. While marketing people are not rigorously scientific, they are quite capable of producing a large amount of talk/$ invested. Given the number of marketing dollars apparently devoted to Java (and the lack of a competitor) I think Java's success is pretty much in the "middle of the Bell curve" as a marketing effort. I believe there are better comparisons than C/C++ and Java. There is precedent for applying marketing to computer languges, however. Prolog (or the Japanese 5th generation computing initiative) and PL/1 got very expensive marketing campaigns as well. These were all bombs. Is it possible that Java will become the Prolog or PL/1 of the 90's? Erik DeBenedictis
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: "Erik P. DeBenedictis" <erikd@netalive.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.java,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk Subject: Re: Will Java kill C++? Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 06:32:42 -0700 Organization: Scalable Computing Message-ID: <316A66FA.4F4B@netalive.com> References: <4k3cdo$np5@taurus.adnc.com> <DpG1s1.GC9@research.att.com> <4k7akk$nsh@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> <DpIG6w.LF8@research.att.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mg131-034.ricochet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I) To: Andrew Koenig <ark@research.att.com>