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Re: LOGO has saved the day : >

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From: Richard Rogers
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 11:17
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Subject: Re: LOGO has saved the day :>
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In article <168489C6A.SDENARO@vm.poly.edu> SDENARO@vm.poly.edu writes:
>In article <7230@skye.ed.ac.uk>
>ken@aiai.ed.ac.uk (Ken Johnson) writes:
> 
>>In article <16846BBA1.SDENARO@vm.poly.edu> SDENARO@vm.poly.edu writes:
>>
>>#  I installed the DOS logo from CHER.MIT.EDU on the PC of a 11 year old
>>#  kid from Brooklyn.  [...] I will start him on Pascal in a year or two.
>>
>>Erm, why?
>>
>The only options I have seen are Pascal and BASIC. BASIC is a language that
>does a great diservice to the student. I have recived mail from a few people
>saying that I should teach him LISP, Scheme, ms Visual BASIC and Oberon.
> 
>I have never heard of scheme or Oberon. I don't like LISP or BASIC. And, lest
> 
>I think Pascal is a nice language. It is easy to learn; and, if nothing else,
>It show that everyone must put up with stupid rules in order to get a job
>done.
> 
>Why is everyone Pascal bashing?
 
>--
>SAL DENARO      "Live Fast, Die Young, Hack 'C'"
>sdenaro@polyvm.poly.edu    sdenaro@polyvm.bitnet
>'SDENARO@vm.poly.edu Ken Johnson          8/19/92*LOGO has saved the day :>

Scheme is a variant of LISP with lexical scope and first-class functions.  
Oberon is a scaled down Pascal with strange ideas about object oriented program-
ming :-) 

Personally, I agree that Pascal is the best next step.  I learned Logo, BASIC,
ForTran, and then Pascal.  When I got to Pascal, I thought it was (almost) 
perfect, and wondered why they had wasted my time with those other silly
languages :-)  A few of Pascal's restrictions are rather stupid, but I found
most of them very helpful.

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From: rrogers@sumax.seattleu.edu (Richard Rogers)
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Date: 23 Aug 92 11:17:14 GMT
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