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Article #1379Re: Algol, and language design
From: Sean Fagan
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 1990 22:50
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 1990 22:50
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In article <1990Jul27.010930.12560@lth.se> bengtl@maths.lth.se (Bengt Larsson) writes:
>Yes, of course some architectures made (make??) it somewhat difficult
>to have recursive procedures (the ones that stored the return adress in
>the first word of the subroutine comes to mind).
"somewhat more difficult." That's *all*.
The CDC Cyber 170 machines (of which most people know I am a big fan 8-))
have no stack, and, on a subroutine call, write an instruction into the
first word of the subroutine ("jump <retaddr>," basicly).
Yet: Pascal was developed on this machine (literally! Wirth used a Cyber
for the first implementation of Pascal). Algol and Simula run quite well on
it. So does PL/I (although the compiler eats up all of memory 8-)). There
are even a couple of C compilers out there, I've been told.
No, it's not as fast. The only reason you don't really want to do it on a
Cyber is memory space: stacks can eat up *lots* of memory, and 170's only
have 128Kwords of memory. On most "modern" machines, this is less a problem
(but, then, most of them have a stack).
Incidently: Crays stuff the return address into a register, which your
routine can then save if it wants to (leaf routines, of course, don't need
to save it).
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!attcan!ncrcan!scocan!seanf From: seanf@sco.COM (Sean Fagan) Newsgroups: comp.lang.misc Subject: Re: Algol, and language design Message-ID: <1990Jul28.185054.2595@sco.COM> Date: 28 Jul 90 22:50:54 GMT References: <25630@cs.yale.edu> <58091@lanl.gov> <1990Jul26.024449.1777@esegue.segue.boston.ma.us> <2406@l.cc.purdue.edu> <1990Jul27.010930.12560@lth.se> Reply-To: seanf@sco.COM (Sean Fagan) Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Lines: 30