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Re: Array references cannot be made optimal

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From: Dan Bernstein
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 1990 20:13
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In article <1990Nov18.024745.2424@bushido.uucp> dbc@bushido.uucp (Dave Caswell) writes:
> .There does not exist an algorithm that will convert an (optimal) array
> .program into its optimal pointer form. That summarizes what I've said so
> .far in this thread.
> .What does it mean for real languages? It means that the programmer
> .*must* be allowed to look at an array x from the vantage point of x[a],
> .rather than x[0]. This array shifting doesn't have to look like C's
> Clearly that isn't a proof.  The word "*must*" is inappropriate in that
> context.

You're right. What I should have said was ``If the language doesn't let
the programmer look at [etc.] ... then it will be restricting his
freedom to express certain optimizations.''

To a language designer, that means that the language *must* provide some
equivalent feature; but most people don't care to design languages.

---Dan
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Subject: Re: Array references cannot be made optimal
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