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Article #3068Re: blip [Re: Dynamic typing -- To Have and Have Not ...]
From: Dan Bernstein
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1991 13:06
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1991 13:06
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In article <1991Mar20.041716.4486@cs.cmu.edu> ram+@cs.cmu.edu (Rob MacLachlan) writes: > I think that you overstate the case. Common Lisp is at least as portable as > C, What world do you live in? About two-thirds of the UNIX systems I use can't even compile any of the available Lisps. In any case, portability is defined by what's out there, not what could be out there; and about 95% of the machines I use do *not* support Lisp even if they *could*. > and Lisp systems offer unsurpassed compile-debug turnaround times (through > incremental compilation.) ``Unsurpassed'' is exaggeration, and even if compile times were instant I'd spend forever just waiting for most programs to run. > But if you just mean that you want to use all the machine's > primitive datatypes with reasonable efficiency, No. A machine is much more than its ``primitive datatypes.'' But Lisp doesn't even provide full access to pointers. > >[...] if you want to buck the establishment, it's your problem to prove that > >dynamically typed languages aren't as inefficient as most experiments have > >found them to be. > -- For some uses, efficiency isn't everything (research, prototyping, > development.) In fact, I've been focusing on the prototyping and development stage of a program, because that's when it's most important to get good compile times *and* run times. ---Dan
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!rice!hsdndev!cmcl2!kramden.acf.nyu.edu!brnstnd From: brnstnd@kramden.acf.nyu.edu (Dan Bernstein) Newsgroups: comp.lang.misc,comp.object Subject: Re: blip [Re: Dynamic typing -- To Have and Have Not ...] Message-ID: <18112:Mar2013:06:0391@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> Date: 20 Mar 91 13:06:03 GMT References: <22032@yunexus.YorkU.CA> <11820:Mar1923:59:3591@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> <1991Mar20.041716.4486@cs.cmu.edu> Organization: IR Lines: 32