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Article #4222Re: scheme [Re: What does an anti-perl look like]
From: Stavros Macrakis
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1991 03:19
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1991 03:19
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In article <603@smds.UUCP> sw@smds.UUCP (Stephen E. Witham) suggests
adding more conventional syntax on top of a Scheme-like semantic base.
Algol-like syntax has gone with Lisp-like languages in several
different projects:
-- Lisp 2.0 was a pretty standard Lisp inside, with Algol syntax outside.
-- ECL (or EL/1) had an Algol-like syntax, a Lisp-like approach to
the language environment (interpreter with compatible compiler,
program represented as linked-list data structures available to
other programs, dynamic scoping, ...) and an original approach to
dynamic data typing (types as data, etc.).
-- The Macsyma user language was fairly Algol-like on the outside,
very Lisp-like on the inside. (Macsyma is a large symbolic
algebra system.)
Of course, all of this depends on what you call `Algol-like' and what
you call `Lisp-like'. If you're not careful, you end up calling every
expression-oriented language with a tree-like internal form Lisp-like,
and every language with begin-end blocks Algol-like.
Perhaps Scheme ought to be called Algol-like for that matter, since
Algol had static scoping since the beginning, and Algol 68 even
introduced first-class closures....
And oh, yes, I agree with Witham that there's more to Lisp's syntax
than S-expressions: you've got to count all the special forms as part
of the syntax to be fair.... One of the advantages of Scheme is that
it reduces the number of these.
-s
** I don't have bibliographies, but here are some pointers:
For Lisp 2.0: see Jean Sammet's Programming Languages: History and
Fundamentals
For ECL: Ben Wegbreit's papers in CACM around 1970-75.
For Macsyma: Macsyma Users' Manual (I don't think the language was
described in any detail in the published papers).
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