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Article #4328Re: Relative Speed of Perl vs. Tcl vs. C
From: John Viega
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 23:59
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 23:59
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In article <ukn3702whe.fsf@linda.teleport.com> merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) writes: > I hope you see my point by analogy. Perl code is imminently readable > to me. I am fluent in Perl. Appaarently, you are not. So it is > *unreadable* to *you*. > > If you need some help understanding Perl, I perhaps can recommend a > good book or two. :-) French is not something anyone is expected to be able to use productively in a week, nevermind a day or an hour. There are languages in which novice programmers can do interesting things with a small learning curve, something Perl isn't really capable of, in my experience. I've taught a handful of non-programmers how to do CGI coding, and I usually let them pick which language they want to learn by showing them the exact same simple CGI program in several different languages, and letting them choose which one they'd like to learn. There are languages such as Python, which non-programmers can look at and have *some* idea what is going on. I've never seen a non-programmer who has been able to make much sense out of a relatively simple Perl script, and certainly, none of those people ever chose Perl as the language they wanted me to teach them. While I certainly see your analogy, it is hard to deny that complaints about Perl's syntax are a big problem for the language. I feel that readability and learnability are two important design points that Perl has all but ignored. However, in a way, that's understandable, since there are so many important design principles, many of which make implementing others difficult, that I would hardly expect any language to be all things to all people. However, I think that it is quite unfortunate that the languages that see the most use and support today cater to the beginning programmer not at all. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |John Viega "Non-structurally equivolent types in C| |rust@virginia.edu are polymorphic vis-a-vis their common| |http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~jtv2j/ entity, the core dump." | |University of Virginia --George Williams | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.misc,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.lang.tcl,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.java Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!murdoch!usenet From: jtv2j@garnet.cs.virginia.edu (John Viega) Subject: Re: Relative Speed of Perl vs. Tcl vs. C In-Reply-To: merlyn@stonehenge.com's message of 03 Feb 1996 08:40:44 -0800 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: garnet.cs.virginia.edu Message-ID: <JTV2J.96Feb9185929@garnet.cs.virginia.edu> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Reply-To: rust@Virginia.EDU Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Virginia References: <4e3a2u$eoa@wcap.centerline.com> <4e54vc$7sk@orac.mon.rnb.com> <4elgpf$fgp@philabs.research.philips.com> <Pine.LNX.3.91.960201172440.2697A-100000@localhost> <ukn3702whe.fsf@linda.teleport.com> Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 23:59:29 GMT