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Re: HLLs vs asm (was Re: portable "asm")

#5397
From: 00704a-Liber
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1988 23:21
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Doug, sorry to put my comments as a followup to your article, but Herman
Rubin's article has expired here.

In article <1600@ogcvax.UUCP> pase@ogcvax.UUCP (Douglas M. Pase) writes:
>In article <l.712> cik@l.cc.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
>>There are two different aims of a programming language.  One is the description
>>of the procedure.  For this, the current languages are totally inadequate.

So is mathematics.  That is why most problems are described in the natural
languages (I think that is the term) such as English, German, etc.  Herman,
if you think that mathematics is such a great descriptive language, please
send me a description of limit theory using only mathematical symbols :-)
:-).  No English (or other natural languages) allowed!!  :-)

>>It is necessary to restrict portability.  Semi-portability
>>may still be desirable.

Well, if you want me to help you prototype your language (see below), you
had better provide me with the same hardware that everyone else is using.
My vote is for a Cray Y-MP :-) :-)!

>>In article <1592@ogcvax.UUCP>, pase@ogcvax.UUCP (Douglas M. Pase) writes:
>>> If you think you really can do better than ``C'' or some other successful
>>> language, *** DO IT ***. 
>
>>If you provide me with the necessary programmers, I will.
>
>Here I am.  If you come up with a language description sufficiently precise
>that it can be implemented, I'll be happy to produce a working compiler.

Me, too.  However, you (Herman Rubin) must convince me that you language is
'better' than what we currently have.  It shouldn't be all that hard to
code the prototype compiler for your language.  However, one of my
definitions of a 'good' general-purpose computer language is the ability to
write a compiler for itself in it.  Since you are the only one who knows
your language, you are the only one who can write the final compiler.  When
you provide us with FORMAL specifications of your language (such as the C
reference manual in the K&R C book), then you can worry about getting
programmers to help you code it.


When you have something that resembles a language definition and
specification, instead of a mish-mash of contradictory ideas, come
back to the net and impress us.  Until then, stop all this unconstructive
criticism on current languages and start working on your language design!!
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From: nevin1@ihlpf.ATT.COM (00704a-Liber)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.misc
Subject: Re: HLLs vs asm (was Re: portable "asm")
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Date: 28 Mar 88 23:21:02 GMT
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