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Learning languages widely used (Was: Algol-68 down for the count)

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From: William G. Hutchison
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 1988 21:07
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In article <3395@newton.praxis.co.uk>, mct@praxis.co.uk (Martyn Thomas) writes:
> In article <404@ubbpc.UUCP>, wgh@ubbpc.UUCP (William G. Hutchison) writes:
> > The primary "benefit" that I see in your institutions' choice of Algol-68 is
> >that you write programs that nobody else can use, and that your students have
> >to do extra work learning mainstream languages after they graduate.
> 
> Research at MC-Amsterdam by van der Meulen (if my memory is accurate)
> showed that learning Algol 68 greatly reduced the time to learn subsequent
> languages, and that if you have to learn more than two languages, starting
> with Algol 68 reduced the overall learning time for the other languages by
> more than the time taken for Algol 68.  I'll post the reference if I can
> locate it.
> 
> Martyn Thomas, Praxis plc, 20 Manvers Street, Bath BA1 1PX UK.

 Please do post it, I would be interested.  Although the information will be
useless in the United States, since no Algol-68 compilers are available, it
is relevant to curricula like MIT, which use Scheme to teach programming.

 I was recalling my experience when I graduated from MIT proficient only in
an Algol-60 variant (AED) and PL/I.  After enough unemployment, I decided to
stop playing the Glass Bead Game, abandon technological purism, and learn
Macro-11 and FORTRAN.

 I do not wish to restrict academic freedom, and I think institutions of
learning should teach their students the best techniques they can devise, but
please, please, allow them to learn some techniques they will be able to use
after graduation!

-- 
Bill Hutchison, DP Consultant	rutgers!liberty!burdvax!ubbpc!wgh
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From: wgh@ubbpc.UUCP (William G. Hutchison)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.misc
Subject: Learning languages widely used (Was: Algol-68 down for the count)
Summary: Teaching only minority language is harmful (I know!)
Message-ID: <417@ubbpc.UUCP>
Date: 2 Dec 88 21:07:58 GMT
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