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Article #6225Re: Turing programming language.
From: Mike Coffin
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1989 16:42
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1989 16:42
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From article <12@euteal.UUCP>, by mart@euteal.UUCP (Mart van Stiphout):
> Let me explain my objections to the Turing loop syntax. My main
> objection is the location of the exit criterion. It is inside the
> loop and generally will be surrounded by (lots ?) of code. As we
> all know, the correctness of loops can be shown by pre- and
> postconditions and the invariant relation. In my view, the stop
> criterion should not be located somewhere in the middle of the
> loop. Furthermore, in my opinion your Pascal examples of loops
> proof their superiority to the Turing loops: the loop type is clear
> in a glance. I think it's ok to use different notations for
> different loops
I'm not sure what the pre- and post-condition have to do with where
the loop exit is. The loop invariant has nothing to do with where the
exit is, and the other part of the post-condition is exactly the exit
condition. Again, it doesn't matter where the exit is.
In a practical sense, it is very useful to exit a loop from the middle
sometimes. Almost all programming languages recognize this and
provide some way to do it: C has break, Pascal has goto, etc. Turing
just attempts to make this less of an exception. With proper
formatting, it is just as obvious what kind of loop it is.
> Why can't there be a programming language with type list that
> automatically allocates memory if needed and allows treatment of
> list in a similar way as arrays.
There are lots of them. CommonLisp, Scheme, Icon, etc.
--
Mike Coffin mike@arizona.edu
Univ. of Ariz. Dept. of Comp. Sci. {allegra,cmcl2}!arizona!mike
Tucson, AZ 85721 (602)621-2858
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!rutgers!noao!arizona!mike From: mike@arizona.edu (Mike Coffin) Newsgroups: comp.lang.misc Subject: Re: Turing programming language. Message-ID: <8861@megaron.arizona.edu> Date: 24 Jan 89 16:42:35 GMT References: <12@euteal.UUCP> Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson Lines: 34