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Re: GNU Script isn't fixing something that's broken, so is doomed

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From: Stephen J Bevan
Date: Sat, 05 Nov 1994 17:12
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In article <39g5bg$3tc@csnews.cs.Colorado.EDU> Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com> writes:
   :-> In gnu.misc.discuss, bevan@cs.man.ac.uk (Stephen J Bevan) writes:
   :In article <3989s0$1jf@csnews.cs.Colorado.EDU> Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com> writes:
   :   someone writes:
   :   :The idea
   :   :that you can choose the environment you want.  If you like Perl, use
   :   :it.  If people like it enough, there may be a Perl->GNU Extension Lang
   :   :compiler, so that you can write your extensions in Perl.
   :   Why ever would you want it to run slower? ...
   :You wouldn't; do you have any evidence that converting to GEL would
   :make it run slower?

   Since no such beast exist, evidence must at best be circumstantial and
   inferred.  But similar cases (where you translate a program language X to
   language Y) nearly always should worse performance than those which start
   out in language Y.

Could you give some actual cases of X and Y together with some timings
that prove your point?


   ...  It would take a lot of work to pass on the optimizations of the
   perl byte compiler and its byte-code interpreter all the way to the target
   language. ...

Perhaps, but first it needs to be shown that those optimisations are
actually worth implementing and/or aren't already subsumed by the
optimisations that target implementation already does.
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From: bevan@cs.man.ac.uk (Stephen J Bevan)
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Subject: Re: GNU Script isn't fixing something that's broken, so is doomed
Date: 05 Nov 1994 17:12:09 GMT
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