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Article #7074Re: GNU Script isn't fixing something that's broken, so is doomed
From: Jurgen Botz
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 1994 18:24
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 1994 18:24
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In article <395rlr$3eh@csnews.cs.Colorado.EDU>, Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com> wrote: >As I've said before, what I'm afraid of is not being given the choice, >that any GNUware will require that we use gnuscript. This is a matter of >political strongarming, and no one will put up with it. Tom, much as RMS comes across as dogmatic and his message is always at least partly political, I've yet to seem him trying to force anyone to do anything. Not that he could, but that doesn't stop other people from trying... anyway, in his various public "position statements" that I've seen RMS has always said "_please_ do/don't do X", rather than "you must do X". It's a small matter of words, but words matter... RMS is an advocate with a political agenda, and I _expect_ him to push his agenda and am not affronted by it so long as he's open about it and doesn't try to ram it down my throat. In any case, once a gnuscript exists, RMS may say "the FSF will not accept software using other scripting languages to distribute as official components of the GNU system" (I doubt he will, though), and he's certainly within his rights just as much as Sun would be if they said something like "everything that's part of Solaris will have its configuration files written in TCL". If this (the former) did come to pass I would be annoyed, but it wouldn't detract much from the FSF software's enormous value to me, and it won't prevent me from releasing software that uses Perl/TCL/Jurgenscript under the GPL if I want to. >If in fact RMS does not want to stop us from writing software that uses >other extensions languages *EVEN FOR GNU SOFTWARE*, then fine -- and vice >versa. Well, again, what do you call GNU software? All software published under the terms of the GPL? Then he can't (stop us). All software distributed by the FSF? That's his prerogative. (When RMS says "GNU software" I'm sure he's referring to the later, even if the FSF does not have a TM on GNU.) What RMS _wants_ doesn't matter much. What he does to achieve those ends does. So far the primary thing he has done to achieve his ends has been to write software, and that's never hurt any other honest programmer. Apple/CMU are developing Dylan, Sun may push TCL, RMS is going to push gnuscript, and many others are working on other incompatible languages to fill similar nieches, which they'll similarly promote (using their own style and methods). IMHO, this is all A Good Thing.
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