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Article #2549

Re: Report on defect in M2 vs C (Was Modula-2, Modula-3, C or C++)

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From: Matthew Kennel
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 04:51
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Carsten Whimster (cs241@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca) wrote:
: In article <DFIrI3.K5M@beaver.cs.washington.edu>,
: Marc E. Fiuczynski <mef@cs.washington.edu> wrote:
: |  Viet-Trung Luu <vluu@napier.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
: |  >The Modula-n programming languages are pretty good. However, they suffer 
: |  >in their Pascal heritage. The C-type syntax is much more concise and 
: |  >consistent (no flames please). 

: [snip]
:   
: |  What exactly are you after?  An improved syntax? How about Modula-3 with a C syntax?

: Isn't Java supposed to be like this? Safe, yet C-like?

In what substantial way is Java C-like?

It doesn't seem that way to me though it's amazing what the right spin can do.

Somehow people are convinced of two things that I don't adhere to:

	*  Java is very C-like, but better

	*  Being C-like is automatically a plus.

I think it's a manefestation of the very foolish notion that "langauges that
superficially appear like C source code on a terminal are good, and ones
that don't are bad."
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From: mbk@caffeine.engr.utk.edu (Matthew Kennel)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.modula2,comp.lang.modula3,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.ada
Subject: Re: Report on defect in M2 vs C (Was Modula-2, Modula-3, C or C++)
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Date: 28 Sep 1995 04:51:55 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory and Univ. Tenn.
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