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Article #2558Re: Report on defect in M2 vs C (Was Modula-2, Modula-3, C or C++)
From: Viet-Trung Luu
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 08:54
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 08:54
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On 27 Sep 1995, Matthew Kennel wrote: > ???? Look at all the i = i++ et cetera garbage. Ok that's not > the syntax, but semantics. But if you jettison C and inherited > C-like semantics, what part of C syntax is worth keeping? Garbage? Sure, it's a little strange at times, but I'd much rather have neat and concise expressions. If it looks confusing at times, then avoid writing it -- it's that simple. That said, I think that the behavior should be more strictly defined for certain things. That doesn't mean that the semantics are bad. What I like about C is its ability to express a lot in very little as well as for its simplicity. (I also like Lisp for similar reasons...) At its best, C is beautifully consistent. What *is* it in C's semantics and syntax that you object to (ignore pointers for the moment... because they aren't very safe, you probably wouldn't want them in a "modern" language)? > No. Eiffel. Sather. Sorry, haven't seen either, but I'll look into it. Evidently, one of the biggest problems is the acceptance of these languages, though. - Trung
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