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Article #2599Re: Report on defect in M2 vs C (Was Modula-2, Modula-3, C or C++)
From: Viet-Trung Luu
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 18:51
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 18:51
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On Sat, 7 Oct 1995, Sam Kendall wrote: > Well, that assumes you can figure out which program on which machine caused the > problem. Then you can rebuild it with a runtime checker, rerun the program, > and try to reproduce the conditions that caused the crash. (Even so, your > checker may miss the error, because most of them miss lots of errors.) I think you usually can. (There's usually strong evidence, such as seg faults... or other mysterious behaviour. Pretty much all "mysterious" behaviour can be considered buggy behaviour.) > This all is necessary because almost nobody deploys or ships programs built > with a C/C++ checker. Why don't they? Because checkers impose large space and > time penalties. So C/C++ developers wear a life jacket in the harbor and throw > it away on the open sea. Well, the cost for checking in C/C++ programs shouldn't be much more than for programs written in other languages. Is that an indication of how slow other languages are or are you saying that C/C++ programs are unchecked because those who use C/C++ want small fast programs? (Obviously, it is more difficult and thus "costly" to check C/C++ programs, but not so much more than for other languages. I guess most of the cost is due to the freedom that C/C++ allow.) - Trung
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.modula2,comp.lang.modula3,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.ada Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!lagrange.uwaterloo.ca!vluu From: Viet-Trung Luu <vluu@lagrange.uwaterloo.ca> Subject: Re: Report on defect in M2 vs C (Was Modula-2, Modula-3, C or C++) Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner) Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951010144335.13726A@lagrange.uwaterloo.ca> In-Reply-To: <DG1yzI.8Ln@mv.mv.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 18:51:31 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Nntp-Posting-Host: lagrange.uwaterloo.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: University of Waterloo