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Article #2641Re: Report on defect in M2 vs C (Was Modula-2, Modula-3, C or C++)
From: Johnston Ian (by ubsswop)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 07:07
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 07:07
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In article <dewar.814190504@schonberg>, dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes: |> Ian says: |> |> "Besides, an interactive debugger is essential in the real world." |> |> Well in one sense this is true, namely the commercial sense. Since so many |> programmers are lost without an interactive debugger, it is certainly true |> that a compiler must have a debugger to be generally used. |> |> However, the idea that it is impossible to write code without an interactive |> debugger is rubbish. Indeed, using the clean-room approach, it is quite |> practical to write code under conditions where the devlopers do not test |> the code they write AT ALL, let alone fiddle around with interactive |> debuggers. May be it's just me then :-) Seriously, though, I do find that using a debugger is the only way to start pinning down what is going on with complex system calls, across a client- server link. If something goes wrong, sometimes you don't even know whether it was the client or the server that had a problem. For example, try fixing OLE code that doesn't work without a debugger... Ian
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!svnews.ubinet.ubs.com!ubszh!ubszh!jis From: jis@ubszh.net.ch (Johnston Ian (by ubsswop)) Newsgroups: comp.lang.modula2,comp.lang.modula3,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Report on defect in M2 vs C (Was Modula-2, Modula-3, C or C++) Date: 23 Oct 1995 07:07:50 GMT Organization: UBS Distribution: world Message-ID: <46ff06$1ss@ubszh.fh.zh.ubs.com> References: <44hcri$rsm@theopolis.orl.mmc.com> <DFyAJF.KpC@research.att.com> <DG1yzI.8Ln@mv.mv.com> <45cj8d$red@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <DG8y40.BMz@world.std.com> <KANZE.95Oct11123925@slsvgqt.lts.sel.alcatel.de> <460ibq$b0j@reuters2.mitre.org> <cspt.1144.30867CCE@giraffe.ru.ac.za> <4662pc$kmi@ubszh.fh.zh.ubs.com> <dewar.814190504@schonberg> NNTP-Posting-Host: nol2179.fh.zh.ubs.com