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Article #3778Re: Is Modula-2 a One-pass language?
From: Robert Nagler
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1987 22:57
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1987 22:57
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>I sent a message on 22nd July to info-modula-2 about one-pass compilation.
>I was surprised to receive only three replies (from Chuck Bilbe,
I think Randy mentioned a minor problem in receiving replies, because
your mail address didn't work. I tried sending a reply directly to you,
but it bounced and I just gave up.
In answer to the question posed:
>I would be interested to hear of any other difficulties that a one-pass
>compiler would have in compiling the language defined by the Report.
I would first like to change the system to a guilty until proven
innocent version as follows:
Why do we need to remove the loose declaration order of Modula-2?
The answers to this question are:
1) The compiler will go faster.
2) "Use before declaration is an abomination" -- Randy Bush.
In response to answer (1), I would like ask how much faster the
compiler will go in comparison to the average compilation/link
sequence of a typical M2 program. My initial impression would be
10 to 20% faster, but then I am not a compiler writer. The speed
improvement on a 10 second compile doesn't seem worth it in
comparison to the amount of time it takes a programmmer to verify
that a module will be fed into the compiler in the "correct" order.
Answer (2) is an interesting opinion which Dr. Wirth allowed us to
explore. After using C and Pascal, I find the loose order of
declaration in M2 allows the programmer to put the important concepts
at the top of the module where they are seen first. I wonder if (2)
is more applicable to systems which require programmers to use
cross-referenced listings as opposed to ones which supply
multi-window text editors.
In any event, I do request that the question be rephrased
to account for the large body of Modula-2 code which may or may
not follow this upward-incompatible restriction.
Rob
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Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!rutgers!sri-spam!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!olsen.UUCP!nagler From: nagler@olsen.UUCP (Robert Nagler) Newsgroups: comp.lang.modula2 Subject: Re: Is Modula-2 a One-pass language? Message-ID: <8708252010.AA00419@klaus.olsen.uucp> Date: Tue, 25-Aug-87 18:57:44 EDT Article-I.D.: klaus.8708252010.AA00419 Posted: Tue Aug 25 18:57:44 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 27-Aug-87 02:53:49 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 41