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Re: Is Modula-2 dead?

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From: Harm Munk
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:20
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tchannon@black.demon.co.uk (Tim Channon) writes:

>>Today Modula-2 to me seems to be dying: Vendors are vanishing and most of the
>>world (i.e. the Intel-World) is using C++. And in 18 months we will have a
>>wonderful standard, but nobody will care ("Modula-2? We are using C++").
>>So what is the presence and the future of Modula-2? And who ist really using
>>Modula-2 (no universities please, just the real world)?

>A new shareware comms program (Deputy) for the IBM PC compatible was  released 
>this month. The extant Odyessey comms program is also written largely in M2.
>Both are very good but alas I did hear one grumble 'I won't use it because 
>it's written in Pascal-like'!!! (if it's written in C _I_ look for the weak 
>typing bugs 8-)

>Ok, so the above is not the real world. Hearsay is that there are moves from 
>Ada to Modula2 by major players but nailing names is not easy. People seem 
>very guarded in their admission, me included.

>If asked I tend to be guarded if someone asks what language was used to code 
>a program. With a lot of my stuff that would be answered 'Assembler and 
>Forth', perhaps leaving out mention of the latter or just saying 'running 
>under Forth'. Commercially Forth is often not acceptable, and unfortunately 
>Modula2 can suffer a little in the same way.

>Prejudice! 

>  TC. 
>    E-mail: tchannon@black.demon.co.uk or tchannon@cix.compulink.co.uk
>                                

If people think that real programs should be written in C or C++, then let's
stop developing native Modula 2 compilers. Instead, we should have compilers
that compile to C or C++. If we do that, we use C (and C++ ?) for the purpose
that it was developed for: glorified assembly ;-).

And if asked in which language our products are written, we can say that the
code is in C or C++.

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