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g_dotzel@tron.gun.de (Guenter Dotzel) writes:

> there is almost no interest in Oberon-2 in the real world. 

Hi Guenter,

Possibly the German real world.  But the interest and use of Oberon-2 and
Modula-2 in the States are about the same, although, sadly, it takes a
magnifying glass to see either.

> Maybe the O2-baby has to grow up fisrt by going through some standardisation
> process?

Use of Modula-2 over here has been inversely related to the so-called
progress of the ISO WG, though I do not claim a causal relationship.  Save
Oberon from such a fate.

Generally, there have been two sorts of language standardization efforts,
those that try to standardize the intersection of classic definitions and
implementations and those which attempt to standardize the union of all.
ISO/JTC1/SC22/WG13 is attempting to standardize the union of all desires,
whether tested by implementation or not.  The results are predictable.

> The main arguments against M2 was always "There is no standardised
> library!"

Luckily, this will soon change.  It will soon be "The standard library is
unbelievable baroque in design, unusable, and difficult to implement."

Perhaps Pat will be kind enough to post Wirth's comments on standardization
again.  The Modula-2 standards work has made this lesson all the more clear.

randy

PS: Your attack on university users is worth an apology.
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