Turbo Modula-2

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5 total messages Started by NU113738 Fri, 23 Oct 1987 00:46

#3903

Author: NU113738
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1987 00:46

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Hello, this is the first time I've posted on this system and I've been
reading over this area somewhat and I have a question.   I'm currently
enrolled in a software design class in college and our default language
is modula-2.  Before this year, I had never touched the language before as
pascal used to be default here.  I like modula-2 a great deal and it
steps beyond pascal and makes modularization and abstraction easier
to implement.
     
The book used in the basic modula-2 learning class that I borrowed is
written around a Turbo modula-2.  I assume its from Bordland Co. but
I have never seen Turbo Modula-2 advertised anywhere.  Does Bordland
have a modula-2 compiler and if so, how much?
     
Thanks
     
Jeff Bakke (Brazil)
NU11373@NDSUVM1.BITNET

Re: Turbo Modula-2

#3911

Author: Jeffrey J Wieland
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1987 17:12

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Turbo Modula-2 does indeed exist!  However, if you don't have a machine with a
Z80 compatible processor (Hitachi 64180, Z280, etc.) you're out of luck.  From
its reviews, it appears to be the fastest compiled language for CP/M-80.  It
runs 10 iterations of the sieve benchmark in ~6 seconds on a 5 megaherz Kaypro.
I assume that the 64180 version would be even faster.  Turbo Pascal 3.01A does
it in ~18 seconds.  The other Modula-2 compiler for CP/M, FTL, runs the sieve
in ~12 seconds, but it produces MUCH more compact code.  The Turbo compilers
both link in a set of run-time routines upon compilation to disk, while FTL
only links in the necessary routines.  (Sorry if this terminology is a bit
strange for M-2, I program in C, Pascal & (AUGH!) FORTRAN.)

I understand that there is also a FTL compiler for MS-DOS, but that it is
currently only small code, small data.  This may have been changed by now.
FTL has an integrated environment ala' Turbo Pascal, but it does it by
chaining back & forth between the editor and the compiler.  You really need
a hard disk or good-sized ram disk to use it.  A fast quad-density drive
probably wouldn't be too bad either.

Turbo Modula-2 for Z80's is available from Echelon (the ZCPR/ZRDOS people) for
about $90.00.

Turbo Modula-2 for the 64180 is available from MicroMint (the SB-180 people)
for about $70.00.

FTL Modula-2 for CP/M & MS-DOS is available from Workman & Assoc. for about $50.

I have no connection with any of the above mentioned companies.  I am a
(relatively) satisfied owner of Turbo Pascal, and if I had $90 to spare, I'd
have my check off to Echelon so fast it would make Phillipe Kahn's head spin!

				Jeff Wieland
				abp@j.cc.purdue.edu

Re: Turbo Modula-2

#3914

Author: Markus Schaub
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1987 00:14

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M2SDS from Interface Technologies is a very fast compiler. Sells for $99 and
they just released a new version.

Hope that helps, Turbo Modula-2 seems like vaporware, or?
Markus

Re: Turbo Modula-2

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Author: Peter da Silva
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1987 12:00

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In article <934@sugar.UUCP>, schaub@sugar.UUCP (Markus Schaub) writes:
> M2SDS from Interface Technologies is a very fast compiler. Sells for $99 and
> they just released a new version.

As I mentioned to you at the users group meeting, I've looked at M2SDS. It
didn't really excite me, mainly because it's a closed system with a funky
FrameWork-style user interface and because the editor had a tendency to
crash and burn when you tried to import a program with bugs in it. Have
they fixed the bugs in M2SDS and/or provided a conventional command-line
style user interface?
-- 
-- Peter da Silva  `-_-'  ...!hoptoad!academ!uhnix1!sugar!peter
-- Disclaimer: These U aren't mere opinions... these are *values*.

Re: Turbo Modula-2

#3923

Author: Markus Schaub
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1987 15:09

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In article <961@sugar.UUCP>, peter@sugar.UUCP (Peter da Silva) writes:
> FrameWork-style user interface and because the editor had a tendency to
> crash and burn when you tried to import a program with bugs in it. Have
> they fixed the bugs in M2SDS and/or provided a conventional command-line
> style user interface?
> -- Peter da Silva  `-_-'  ...!hoptoad!academ!uhnix1!sugar!peter

The same interface, improved compiler (lots of bugs fixed), editor doesn't
crash anymore (or better not as often as before, currently no known bugs).
Importing programs is still difficult, and no command line interface available.
It is a syntax-directed editor, importing faulty programs into a tree structure
is difficult, the command line interface should be possible.

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