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Bjoern,

        If you are starting a multi-year project, I recommend in the
        strongest terms dissociating yourself from the IBM-PC/Intel
        architecture and Microsoft's products at the beginning.

        I am currently programming in the OXXI Benchmark Modula-2
        compiler, which has a beautifully integrated development
        system using micro-gnu-emacs (you can edit, compile, link and
        test without leaving emacs) with full, documented access to
        the AmigaDOS multi-processing, message passing, window
        oriented operating system.  It is like being in love!

        I'm sure that there are several other well integrated systems
        out there, but I'm convinced none of them will ever come from
        Microsoft or IBM, their records speak too strongly against it.

        Good luck with your project, and keep us informed how it goes!

Thanks,

Kent, the man from xanth.

In article <INFO-M2%88020117453023@DB0TUI11>, SINBV@NOBERGEN.BITNET ("Bjoern Asle VALDE  5 21 26 98", +47) writes:
> Does any1 out there know if it is possible to use any PC-based M2
> compilers (Stony Brook?) when working under windows ? Or rather:
> has anybody any experience with using M2 to develop an substantial
> application running under MicroSoft (tm) Windows (tm) *without*
> using the Ms C compiler and the Ms Windows Developers Library - system ?
> 
> Cheers; Bjoern Asle.

Yes, it is possible.  I have an 11,000 application for the PC written
(originally) for Logitech, however ported over to Stony Brook.  I was
one of the Beta-testers for Stony Brook Modula-2 and three hours after
I received my beta test copy, I was hooked!

The application was a little too large for me to want to place it
completely under Windows, so I shrunk it to about 2500 lines and used
THAT under windows.  Originally there were some bugs (like it refused
to clean up the screen correctly), however they've been fixed (or so
I've been told by the developer -- I haven't tried it again).

Eventually, I decided to keep my old interface instead of the MSW
version, which is why I haven't tried it since.  I doubt I'll go back
to that version -- it really was only a play toy.

The 11,000 application is now nicely running on my PC, having been
recompiled in less than a quarter of the time Logitech took, and an
amazing 30k smaller (even smaller than Logitech 2/86 v3.0).  Needless
to say, I'm very much a fan of Stony Brook...

Absolute vital statistics (Logitech vs Stony Brook) are available if
there is enough interest.  I won't bother getting them if there isn't
a large enough crowd.

BTW, is anyone else out there using Stony Brook??

bruce bergman
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Modula-2 group readers:

Sorry to the net my slam of Microsoft and the IBM-PC went out public;
these words thoroughly represented my opinions, but were supposed to
be a private email; not something for you to wade through.  I hit the
wrong key in rn and didn't notice until the next day.  Again, my
apologies.

Kent, the man from xanth.

In article <185@telesoft.UUCP>, bruceb@telesoft.UUCP (Bruce Bergman @spot) writes:
> Absolute vital statistics (Logitech vs Stony Brook) are available if
> there is enough interest.  I won't bother getting them if there isn't
> a large enough crowd.
> 
> BTW, is anyone else out there using Stony Brook??

    Does Stony Brook Modula-2 system come with a run-time debugger?
    And how much does the full system cost?

    Please post the vital statistics.

    Thanks,


                                                 ..uday

Ahh Ha!  I have been trying to find somebody who has had experience wiht
this.
1.  Where can I get information/source for the "micro/gnu/emacs"
2.  How about using this on other systems?

Patrick Powell