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In article <4jqh51$eq9@neptune.ethz.ch>, oswald@inf.ethz.ch writes:
> 
> The differences really aren't that big but the text models are incompatible.
> There won't exist a System 3 version supporting elements because most
> common element types are available as System 3 objects and automatic
> conversion tools exist (System3.Tool/Applications/WTS).
> 
> Although System 3 sources are not released publicly at the moment,
> it is not that hard to get them. Just ask Prof. Gutknecht for the current
> license terms if you are seriously interested (mailto:gutknech@inf.ethz.ch).

I hope that by now it is clear to ETH developers, that there are some 
problems with System 3, not neccessarily with its technical details, 
but more with the reception and perception of the System. I think 
it will not hurt if you both see those problems and maybe try to think 
how to solve them. One problem was with sources, and it is good you 
pointed out this is not a serious problem for those seriously interested. 
Another problem is with the current level of support. Present System-3 
situation is a large step back from the V4 situation. Just look at the number
of V4 ports that do not have their S3 counterpart. This is very disappointing,
and also somewhat surprising. For a prospective user it is quite frustrating
to keep waiting forever till you guys somehow regain previous level of 
commitment. I guess there must be some obstacles on that path which 
only you know, and it must be left to you to overcome those obstacles
somehow. We are all waiting, how long should we wait? In the long run 
both the users and also developers lose. I think it is clear to everybody?
While it is true that ETH is not a software house, on the other hand 
some improvement over the present status should be possible. I hope 
you are giving some thought to this issue.

Wojtek