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Re: Java

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From: skulski
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 22:52
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In article <4donie$m61@wariat.wariat.org>, 
enikitin@junior.wariat.org (Eric W. Nikitin) writes:

> Just because Java is "hot" right now doesn't mean it is the right thing
> to do. Java is unproven as a programming language. I could say the same
> about the VM, etc. If the Oberon community is able to produce a better 
> product with OpenDoc... AND eventually get the world to see that is it
> better, then there's no reason to "go along with the crowd" and produce
> Java applets with Oberon.
> 
> Maybe if the cards are played right... Oberon/OpenDoc will become as 
> strongly associated as C/Unix... or MS-Windows/Visual Basic... or 
> Java/HotJava... ;)
> 
> Thanks for listening to my humble thoughts,
> Eric

"Oberon community" is not commercially driven, and therefore lacks 
coherence, and therefore lacks commercial success. This is nothing 
new. Oberon System has always been ahead of the crowd, and still is.
But this only means those lucky few who discovered Oberon System 
(any flavor) for themselves can become more productive and maybe 
a bit happier. In commercially driven world, Oberon ideas do not make 
headlines. They only start making headlines, when some big player 
picks them up and invests some megabucks into slick packaging. 

For Oberon developers, the ultimate in success is to earn their 
PhD degrees. Then they leave. We are still waiting for a next 
Phillipe Kahn. But then, would I pay a few hundred bucks for Turbo Oberon?
Maybe I would.... Right now I have my Linux V4-0.9 and I am quite happy
with it. And you know who develops two Linux Oberon Systems ? Two students.
How can you expect to conquer the MS/Java/Unix/Apple world ?

Wojtek
My persistent object library for V4/System-3 will be beta soon (I hope).
Drop me a line if you want to see a prerelease. 
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