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Peter Nolan wrote:
> 
> That's true in real life, but it is a small business and he is a
> friend. In fact I offered to do it as a part-time project for free but
> he insists on paying a fair price. I aint going to argue with someone
> who *wants* to give me money! <g>
> 

Could you give some hint, what kind of sums are we discussing
here? 

If the amount of work, and also the code you are going to do
is for instance something like $200-$400 total, then why spend
too much time and effort with it. Tell your friend it is $300,
if that's too much, give it for free, but say he owes you a favor 
now.

If it is a 'real' project, thousands of dollars, taking several 
weeks, or months of your time, then better make it clear right 
away, that this size of favors need to be paid with money, not
with friendship. You'll have to get $XX/hour, even from good
friends, because this really is your work, not your hobby.

Looks like this friend has some kind of advantage over you, maybe
you can't get those words out with him, that you can say here, in 
the newsgroups.
Just tell you appreciate his frienship, but also make him face 
the facts of your work and schedules, and usual charges. 
One hour of open discussions, that could be a way to solve this kind 
of problem. 

If even this does not work, then tell him that:
 "All the programmer guys in Internet tell that $50-$100/h for an
  average programmer, that is the going rate in the OECD countries. 
  Those numbers, and then our friendship, that's the base we have 
  to build this deal".

Good luck.

Markku Nevalainen