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yes thats true but their will always be a few madmen.

what about the sadam V america thing?

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Nobody wrote in message <35C0B1A2.ADD027F8@over.the.rainbow>...
>Really so humanity is in still in it's kill everyone phase.  Interesting
since
>Communism collapsed, and recently there have been more movements toward
peace
>instead of war.  For instance NATO is now getting more countries from the
>Eastern Block to sign up.  China just recently had a visit from President
>Clinton.  The only threats to peace now (aside from terrorists, etc.) is
the
>Pakistan vs. India showdown (both countries with nukes who dislike each
other)
>and the conflict of China vs. Taiwan (China says it's a rebel district of
China
>and Taiwan says it is it's own nation.).  Anything I miss?  Oh as for the
Hitler
>Story, well power is what you make of it.  One can use it for bad things
and
>another can use it for good things.  You see you keep talking about Genetic
>technology (specifically cloning) is such a deadly power, what about
nuclear
>power?? I mean Nuclear technology can be devastating.  Hiroshima and
Nagasaki,
>remember the Manhattan Project??  And where are we today? With NUCLEAR
reactors
>powering our cities.  So homecome we can't say the same about genetic
>technology.  Maybe 50 years from now, genetics is used everyday to SAVE
people
>from all kinds of problems.  Burn victims, victims of ogran failure,
victims of
>chronic illnesses could be saved and restored to tip top condition.  So
instead
>of being so negative try to lighten up.  There are several good reasons why
>genetic technology should be developed more.
>
>Firestarter wrote:
>
>> where are you disagreeing with me?
>> you have summed up everything ive already said,the hitler story was an
>> egsample of how power can fall in the wrong hands,i wasnt hinting for a
>> moment that he actually had cloneing technology.
>> and when you look into the history you tend to see alot of negative
>> things,sure their are good things,but its important to think that
cloneing
>> can be used for bad things too,considering we dont seem to be coming out
of
>> our destructive: kill everyone phase
>> it is worth thinking about.
>>
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>> Nobody wrote in message <6piur3$661@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
>> >So just because you and I think it is wrong, does it stop anyone from
>> conducting
>> >the research??  If one is determined and has the resources they can
easily
>> do
>> >it.  Besides, must you look at the worst case scenarios?  Through
genetics
>> many
>> >advances have been made to AID humankind.  Take for instance common
plants
>> that
>> >grow medicine that you can I use.  Cows that make certain types of milk
for
>> >people with medical alliments to drink.  And what about crops that
produce
>> more
>> >food per acre?  Geez look on the bright side of things.  Oh and all this
>> talk
>> >about giving power to a baby... well you're right genetic power is
>> something
>> >more deadly than anything else.  Biological weapons are indeed more
deadly
>> than
>> >nuclear weapons.  The problem is that the risks out wiegh any possible
>> gains
>> >that one could have in using genetics to create a weapon.  The risk of
that
>> >biological weapon to go wrong and backfire is too high.  And finally all
>> this
>> >talk about Hitler.  Ok if and I do mean if, Hitler had the capability of
>> cloning
>> >then everyone else would too.  It would come down to a battle of who had
>> the
>> >most resources.  Just a little history for you.  Hitler relied on a
quick
>> >decisive war.  Swift and stunning.  Germany never had the resources to
pull
>> a
>> >long war. Just like back in the American Civil War. The South could
never
>> had
>> >fought a long war. If anything, the South need a quick war.  And that is
>> why in
>> >both cases, those sides lost.  Of course there were other factors, but I
>> really
>> >don't have the time nor the energy to go into that.
>> >
>> >Firestarter wrote:
>> >
>> >> that stuff about using cloneing for medical reasons is all very good
but
>> can
>> >> you imagine the bad things that can be done?
>> >> think what hitler would do if he had that capability?
>> >> millions and millions of the perfect fighter!
>> >> then theirs the moral aspect but this dosent matter because its going
to
>> be
>> >> done anyway,its like giving a child a toy and telling him he cant use
it.
>> >> mabye its been done already?,the fact is nobody knows!
>> >> i saw a program a while back about a guy who wanted to clone humans,he
>> wasnt
>> >> allowed by the goverment,but in texas it is still legal,he said he
would
>> >> move his research to texas and do it their if he had to and was not
>> giving
>> >> up.
>> >>
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>> >> Nobody wrote in message <6pgq6h$lvm@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
>> >> >I agree completely. Just like the research in non-lethal weapons.
>> >> Ultrasonic,
>> >> >Vortex, and Laser research done my our government is very important.
As
>> >> for
>> >> >corporations doing research like this, well it all depends on the
>> >> corporation.  I
>> >> >mean if a corporation where to research genetics and cloning, I sure
>> they
>> >> could get
>> >> >a lot of profit.  I mean useable organs are very costly and if a
>> >> corporation where
>> >> >able to mass produce, let's take hearts, hearts then they could make
a
>> lot
>> >> of
>> >> >money.  Now if you are going to say that such a feat is impossible,
then
>> >> look at
>> >> >the mice they cloned recently.  24 clones and some where clones of
>> clones.
>> >> >Interesting ain't it.
>> >> >
>> >> >- wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Nobody <somewhere@over.the.rainbow> Said this:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Let me guess this place out in Nevada. It was an old abandon base
>> which
>> >> also
>> >> >> >known as Area 51???!!??
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Exactly, another flaw in the whole story - they abandoned that
>> >> >> facility at least 2 years ago after they finally figured it's cover
>> >> >> was completely blown.  I believe the skunk works and all the other
>> >> >> black projects are in Colorado or New Mexico now.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And oh yeah.... black projects aren't all the big a deal.  I for
one
>> >> >> am glad they exist - I can't imagine how some commercial and "real
>> >> >> world" technologies would become available if the government didn't
>> >> >> fund this sort of advanced, almost surreal research.  I can't see a
>> >> >> GM, or a GE, or a Microsoft funding the same kind of research,
since
>> >> >> most of the projects probably get scrapped after a few years and a
few
>> >> >> hundred million dollars.  Corporations can't afford such
"frivolous"
>> >> >> research, they need ROI (return on Investment).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Daniel (dS=dQ/T) Key wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> blowclinton@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
>> >> >> >> <6pc4eu$32r$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>> >> >> >> >Okay...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >A friend of mine, whose identity must remain anonymous has
agreed
>> for
>> >> me to
>> >> >> >> >let everyone know what she has seen.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
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