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Article #171Re: Recent Secret Government Experiments Killing People!!!
From: Firestarter
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 00:00
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 00:00
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where are you disagreeing with me? you have summed up everything ive already said,the hitler story was an egsample of how power can fall in the wrong hands,i wasnt hinting for a moment that he actually had cloneing technology. and when you look into the history you tend to see alot of negative things,sure their are good things,but its important to think that cloneing can be used for bad things too,considering we dont seem to be coming out of our destructive: kill everyone phase it is worth thinking about. -- ICQ UIN: 6036731 phie site: http://dac.org/users/phie/right.html phie zine: http://phiezine.zeris.net/ IRC: #hackers_ireland,#hackerzlair,#2600-uk. Nobody wrote in message <6piur3$661@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>... >So just because you and I think it is wrong, does it stop anyone from conducting >the research?? If one is determined and has the resources they can easily do >it. Besides, must you look at the worst case scenarios? Through genetics many >advances have been made to AID humankind. Take for instance common plants that >grow medicine that you can I use. Cows that make certain types of milk for >people with medical alliments to drink. And what about crops that produce more >food per acre? Geez look on the bright side of things. Oh and all this talk >about giving power to a baby... well you're right genetic power is something >more deadly than anything else. Biological weapons are indeed more deadly than >nuclear weapons. The problem is that the risks out wiegh any possible gains >that one could have in using genetics to create a weapon. The risk of that >biological weapon to go wrong and backfire is too high. And finally all this >talk about Hitler. Ok if and I do mean if, Hitler had the capability of cloning >then everyone else would too. It would come down to a battle of who had the >most resources. Just a little history for you. Hitler relied on a quick >decisive war. Swift and stunning. Germany never had the resources to pull a >long war. Just like back in the American Civil War. The South could never had >fought a long war. If anything, the South need a quick war. And that is why in >both cases, those sides lost. Of course there were other factors, but I really >don't have the time nor the energy to go into that. > >Firestarter wrote: > >> that stuff about using cloneing for medical reasons is all very good but can >> you imagine the bad things that can be done? >> think what hitler would do if he had that capability? >> millions and millions of the perfect fighter! >> then theirs the moral aspect but this dosent matter because its going to be >> done anyway,its like giving a child a toy and telling him he cant use it. >> mabye its been done already?,the fact is nobody knows! >> i saw a program a while back about a guy who wanted to clone humans,he wasnt >> allowed by the goverment,but in texas it is still legal,he said he would >> move his research to texas and do it their if he had to and was not giving >> up. >> >> -- >> ICQ UIN: 6036731 >> phie site: http://dac.org/users/phie/right.html >> phie zine: http://phiezine.zeris.net/ >> IRC: #hackers_ireland,#hackerzlair,#2600-uk. >> >> Nobody wrote in message <6pgq6h$lvm@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>... >> >I agree completely. Just like the research in non-lethal weapons. >> Ultrasonic, >> >Vortex, and Laser research done my our government is very important. As >> for >> >corporations doing research like this, well it all depends on the >> corporation. I >> >mean if a corporation where to research genetics and cloning, I sure they >> could get >> >a lot of profit. I mean useable organs are very costly and if a >> corporation where >> >able to mass produce, let's take hearts, hearts then they could make a lot >> of >> >money. Now if you are going to say that such a feat is impossible, then >> look at >> >the mice they cloned recently. 24 clones and some where clones of clones. >> >Interesting ain't it. >> > >> >- wrote: >> > >> >> Nobody <somewhere@over.the.rainbow> Said this: >> >> >> >> >Let me guess this place out in Nevada. It was an old abandon base which >> also >> >> >known as Area 51???!!?? >> >> >> >> Exactly, another flaw in the whole story - they abandoned that >> >> facility at least 2 years ago after they finally figured it's cover >> >> was completely blown. I believe the skunk works and all the other >> >> black projects are in Colorado or New Mexico now. >> >> >> >> And oh yeah.... black projects aren't all the big a deal. I for one >> >> am glad they exist - I can't imagine how some commercial and "real >> >> world" technologies would become available if the government didn't >> >> fund this sort of advanced, almost surreal research. I can't see a >> >> GM, or a GE, or a Microsoft funding the same kind of research, since >> >> most of the projects probably get scrapped after a few years and a few >> >> hundred million dollars. Corporations can't afford such "frivolous" >> >> research, they need ROI (return on Investment). >> >> >> >> > >> >> >Daniel (dS=dQ/T) Key wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> blowclinton@my-dejanews.com wrote in message >> >> >> <6pc4eu$32r$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>... >> >> >> >Okay... >> >> >> > >> >> >> >A friend of mine, whose identity must remain anonymous has agreed for >> me to >> >> >> >let everyone know what she has seen. >> >> >> > >> >
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f492c,84c94afe5f0993 X-Google-Attributes: gidf492c,public X-Google-Thread: f4463,84c94afe5f0993 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4463,public X-Google-Thread: fa0ae,84c94afe5f0993 X-Google-Attributes: gidfa0ae,public X-Google-Thread: 1147dc,84c94afe5f0993 X-Google-Attributes: gid1147dc,public From: "Firestarter" <majestik_12@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Recent Secret Government Experiments Killing People!!! Date: 1998/07/28 Message-ID: <6pj1p5$gen21@scotty.tinet.ie> X-Deja-AN: 375475609 References: <6pc4eu$32r$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <901370841.16539.0.nnrp-09.c2defb17@news.demon.co.uk> <6pfon9$6p1@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> <35bbe5a8.71718903@news2.cais.com> <6pgq6h$lvm@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> <6pigjm$inj28@scotty.tinet.ie> <6piur3$661@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Organization: Telecom Internet, Dublin, Ireland. Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl.misc,alt.2600.hackerz,alt.ph.uk,es.comp.hackers