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well just incase you arent being sarcastic (i never know any more)

here are some places that allow freedom of information requests:

Department of the Army
Chief,FOIA/PA Division
US Army Information Systems Command
Crystal Square 2,Suite 201
1725 Jefferson David Hightway
Arlington,VA 20350-2000

Department of Justice
Office of information and Privacy
FOIA Officer
Washington,DC 20530

Department of the Air Force
11 MSS/IMS (FOIA)
Room 4A1088C
1000 Airforce Pentagon
Washington,DC 20330-1000

Federal Bureau of Inverstigation (FBI)
Department of Justice
FOIA Officer
Washington,DC 20535

Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA)
Mr Robert P.Richardson
Chief,FOIA Staff
Washington,DC 20340

Central Intelligence Agency (dont write "CIA" in address)
Information and Privacy
Co-ordinator
Mr Lee S.Strickland
PO Box 1925
Washington,DC 20013

National Security Agency (NSA)
Central Security Service
FOIA Officer
Fort George G.Meade,MD 20755-6000

Department of the Navy
Head,PA/FOIA Branch
Chief of Naval Operations
2000 Navy Pentagon
Washington,DC 20350-2000

and more closer to home:

British UFO Studies Center (BUFOSC)
52 Dart Walk,Wharton,Cheshire,CW7 3JE
tel 01606 552175

Essex UFO Research Group
tel 0121 681 6344

Birmingham UFO Society (BUG)
tel 0121 681 6344

British UFO Research Organization
BM BUFORA,London WC1N 3XX
tel 0191 236 8375

Northern Anomalies Research Organization
tel 0161 905 3047

Scottish Unexplained Phenomena Research
49 Limefield Cresent,Bathgate,West Loyjian
tel 01506 635184

Strange Phenomena Investagations
tel 01259 210714

West of Scotland UFO Group
tel 01247 275179

realy close to (my home):

The Irish UFO & Paranormal Research Association
PO Box 3070,Whitehall,Dublin 9,Ireland

phew!!!!!!!,well,the big america chaps up top have been knows to keep some
people waiting for 6 years and then give them a piece of paper 95% blacked
out,although i know someone who got a reply in a few weeks,
(they have lots of standard documents they give to different types of
questions,they may not look around at all)

as for Authors:
I like stanton T Friedman's books
Crash at corona and TOP SECRET/MAJIC

the first is about the roswell incident and the second is about majestic
12,(a group whos job was to study and cover up evidence of UFOs)

If you like the paranormal too:
Rupert Sheldrake,has some cool books eg:server experiments that could change
the world.he is trying to get people to do lots of experiments and send him
the details and hopefully he will have lots of evidence for or against ESP
and alike.

Timothy Good is excellent,his books (among others) Above Top secret and
Beyond top secret are both very similar but give a huge diary of reports
from 1936 foo fighters to today.huge books a heavy read but good.

If your into past lives kinda stuff get a book called Past lives,future
lives by Jenny cockell.dont mistake her with Jenny randels who is a famous
ufo investigator,(get her books too)such as UFO retrievals

The Bible Code by Michael Drosnin(good one trying to decipher the bible
code,nostradamus prophecies)

ehhh.... Uri geller books (no comment)

hmm just browsing through books here found another thing about PROMIS
software (leave that for another post)

oh yeah Fire in the sky,movie and book,travis walton who was missing for 5
days after him and his friends all saw a ufo in the sky stike him with
light.

Gods of the new Millenium by alan alford
havent read this one yet,hear its excellent,he tries to proove that we were
geneticly engineered by flesh and blood beings. (read it....then laugh)

hmm just saw a mitnick article,i am looking up a magazine called The X
Factor at the moment ( i know the title is cheesy)but its very good.
also the magazine Fortean Times,although the TV show takes the piss a bit.

Id say this would be good: The men who murderd mailyn,ive always found jfk
stuff interesting.oh yeah thats by a guy called Matthew Smith.

if you are interested in dreams get Dream detective by Chris Robinson,about
a guy who keeps telling his dreams to the police and stopping accidents
before they happen.

a book writer who is actually from the MoD:
nick pope has a few books: Open skies,closed minds,
is about the research he did when he was in the ministry.
ive seen him on many vidios and tv programs and ament quite sure what i
think of him yet,he has done some good things about the rendlesham forest
incident (multiple military UFO close sighting,in a AFB)

if you are interested in stuff like ley lines and nazca lines and strange
things in the desert check out paul devereux's book The Long Trip.
and his book UFOs and UFOlogy,he argues that the abduction scenario isnt
physical but is just an altered state of consciousness.

the Satanic Bible (off the topic but interesting to see other opinions)
thats a small little book by Anton Szandor LaVey.

A really good but old book i have read is called Supernature by Lyall watson
r something like that its really good,about all kinds of stuff such as
"life",heavy but good.

Confrontations, by Jacques Vall�e,a scientist researcher

Their are lots of oldies about project blue book,im reading one on and off
at the moment called simply: Project Bluebook,its by Brad Steiger.
incase you dont know project Bluebook was one of the US goverments
"official" UFO investigations,before that their was Project Sign,Project
Grudge and Special Report #14 (makes you think what happened to 1-13)
the problem was that alot of good UFO files didnt even reach bluebook,so
their was definitive filtering going on,and a 10% unknown list was still a
few hundred unexplained ones.

The day after Roswell,by Philip Corso,the same guy who bought the land and
now charges tourists $15 to see it,probably not a good book to get.

can someone tell me if they find a book called Unidentified flying objects
by M.K.Jessup,its also about the Philadelphia experiment,where a submarine
was supposed to vanish.

ahhhhh!!! sorry just saw a smug (dont blame him) picture of bill gates on my
magazine.blasphamy!

anyway enough of that,mabye some sites? (dont know if their still up,as i
dont bother going to them much since i find computers more interesting)

http://www.xfactor.co.uk
http://www.forteantimes.com
majestic 12: http://www.protree.com/pi/UFO/Majestic-12/
if you are more of a wako conspiracy theorist:
http://www.awpi.com/ConspiracyWeb/index.html
British UFO Research Association: http://www.bufora.org.uk/
Abductees Anonymous: http://www.cybergate.com/~ufoline/
Millennium matters: http://www.newciv.org/millennium_matters/intro.html
Astrolog: http://www.rpk.mach.uni-ruhe.de/~ferber/astrolog/
Church of the Sub Genius (hehe,and to think i actually know some members)
http://mt.www.media.mit.edu/people/mt/subg/subg.html
Mysterious Places: http://www.mysteriousplaces.com/index.html
Cryptozoology: http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~bz050/HomePage.cryptoz.html
Face On Mars (recently prooved to be a pile of rocks looked at in the wrong
direction): http://www.psrw.com/~markc/marshome.html
Koestler Parascychology Unit: http://moebius.psy.ed.ac.uk/
CSICOP: http://www.csicop.org/ (committee for the scientific investigation
of claims of the paranormal)
Blackops-Enclyclopedia of Conspiracies: http://gate.cruzio.com/~blackops/
SETI: http://www.seti-inst.edu
A-Z of cults: http://www.observer.co.uk/cults/a-z-cults/index.html
The Ghost Web: http://www.anone.com/~starwest/
Weird Science: http://www.eskimo.com/~billb/weird.html
Philadelphia Experiment: www.wincom.net/softarts/philexp.html
Nessie on the net: http://www.scotnet.co.uk/highland/index.html

please god give me a break!,that should do ya for a while?
dont ask so big questions next time,oh well im home alone so its the best
way to fill in time.


try searching on the things mentioned,also try
http://www.station1.net/douglasjones/preview.htm
ive found that place excellent,one strange conversation but the looney must
have a great imagination to say the least,also got lots of stuff about the
drake equation (equation on calculating the number of intellegent planets in
the galazy,Impossible!)

and the UFO Web ring: http://www.mbn.net/rover/webring.html/
loads of sites,some good some bad.

and yet another active channel,Ufocus:
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/phil.light/ie4.htm
thats a really good one ,with cool music too.


Good thing i dont have a reputation....or else it would be ruined now ;)






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Bloke wrote in message
<901583179.21202.0.nnrp-08.d4e45ddb@news.demon.co.uk>...
>This is probably the best discussion this newsgroup has had for a long
time.
>What ya reading firestarter?
>
>Can us curious English Bloke's get a hold of it?