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Re: Arity's so-called upgrade

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From: John Dowding
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1991 17:39
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In article <3609@ux.acs.umn.edu> pukite@vz.acs.umn.edu (J. PUKITE) writes:

		   The PROLOG Vendor Paradox (PVP)

   IF
     the following mappings apply:
     The Vendor => information, facts;
     the users => ravings from idiots;
     other vendors => disinformation;
   THEN
     why do the users post messages on the net instead of going to
     The Vendor FIRST?


Because no vendors will respond favorable to the request to declare
publicly to a potential (or actual) customer all the known bugs and
shortcomings of their product.

Over the years I have submitted a number of bug reports to a variety
of vendors.  In each case, I have never known if they knew about this
bug already, or if mine was the first report.  Who knows how many
times I have spent hours tracking down bugs in products that the
vendor already knew was there?  (That is a rhetorical question, Richard)

I see nothing wrong with using this newsgroup as a forum for product
related discussions between users.  When misinformation is spread on
the net, there have always been experts willing to set matters
straight.

In any case, it is certainly not the vendors place to tell us what
should and should not be discussed on the net.
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Subject: Re: Arity's so-called upgrade
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