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On 8 Jan 1993 03:11:47 GMT adam@endor.uucp (Adam Shostack) said:
>In article <9301080223.AA22606@SERVER.uwindsor.ca> ophof@SERVER.uwindsor.ca (Scott Ophof) writes:
>>When one hits "r" from the index screen or while reading an item,
>>one means "reply to whatever originator/sender/reply-to address is
>>in the header of this item".
>>But other than laboriously rewriting the address on the headers
>>screen, there's no (simple) way to specify a different address.
>>...
>How does this differ from forward?

"forward" automatically includes not only the original item, but
also its headers.  That action is not what I want.

The "reply" command automatically assumes an addr as destination
without giving one the chance to add/change/remove addresses at the
time the "reply" command is invoked.  This action doesn't give me a
chance to do what I want at the most obvious time in the chain of
events.  Sometimes I reply to an item which has an unreplyable
return-addr.  So I need to change this addr...


>>In the doc I have access to, the "r" command is explained, but there
>>seems to be no "R" command.  And "R" isn't recognized by this version
>>of elm.

>There is no R command.  I suggested that it be used to reply to a mail
>and include the headers and such, which is an occaisonally useful
>thing to do.  It could also be used for R)espond and automatically
>include the message.  Or we could leave it for some future feature.

Yes, I saw the relevant posting, and now understand what you meant
in your item...  ;-)

Let's say that your suggestion and mine were seriously being
considered for implementation.  Assuming insistence on use of
INTUITIVE ONE-character commands, and if the upper-case "R" is used
here, then only one of the two suggestions can be implemented.
Seems like we're already running out of command-space that can be
used intuitively.  (sigh)

But how about a (set of) prefix character(s) to appropriately modify
the command?  Like:

   i   Include specified address(es)
   t   Include the original item
   h   Include the original headers
   -   Reverse the meaning of the above

Thus "-itr addr" would mean "remove 'addr' from the list of addrs to
reply to, but include the original text".
This might be easier than manually editing the relevant field?
(I know that "i" and "t" are existing commands; I just used those
characters as examples.)

Which reminds me; maybe add a way to access the "envelop" screen
before going into edit mode?  A version of that screen that still
leaves most of the previous screen (index or item being read) nicely
visible?  And/or an option for ".elmrc" to *always* show the envelop
screen after leaving edit mode?

I'd like to add that insistence on 1-char commands does not make it
easy to keep the command structure simple for the user, nor does it
in any way help to increase intuitiveness.

Comments?

Regards.
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