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Article #126Re: Using MIME without extra mail headers
From: Piercarlo Grandi
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:29
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:29
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On 10 Jan 93 21:31:55 GMT, kosta@blues.kk.sub.org (Kosta Kostis) said: kosta> (Alasdair Grant) writes: Alasdair> Is there any convention for transmitting MIME messages if Alasdair> extra mail headers (Content-Type etc.) cannot be used for one Alasdair> reason or another? Do any mailers understand messages whose Alasdair> first (text) line begins "MIME-Version..." or something? Good question, and good subsequent discussion. In particular I agree with your idea that MIME can be used outside RFC based mail, for non RFC based mail, or indeed for any sort of document encoding. kosta> The MIME-headers should be in the headers only. Is is so difficult to contemplate that this is not an option in some mail systems, which are *not* RFC based, and have nothing to do with the Internet? The Internet is large, but it is only one of many mail domains. kosta> Well, "my ideal" MTA would only analyse the headers of a message kosta> needed for routing (if at all), transfer everything without kosta> changing any bit (except adding "Received"-lines perhaps) and kosta> forward the message to next next MTA on the way to the kosta> receipient. Within the Internet this is (barely) possible; within other mail systems it is not. All they undertake is to deliver message bodies. kosta> It's the MUA's job to interpret the content of the message, only, kosta> but the MUA must know about the encoding used and stuff like kosta> that. kosta> but you'll have to tell your MUA manually to convert the message, kosta> if at all possible. It's like using uuencode/uudecode. What about defining an in-band, very obvious, "magic string", sort of cookie, that says to a MUA (or to *any* file manipulation program), that 'hey this is a MIME thingie'? Then cookie aware MUAs can apply metamail or whatever MIMEry automagically, even if it is impossible to tag the message envelope appropriately or even if there is no envelope. As long as the cookie is *standard*, and damn unlikely to occur as part of "normal" text. There ought to be an option within the MUA/file viewer with three values: CHECK: ask every time if the file should be MIMEd. ALWAYS: MIME the file every time there is a MIME cookie. NEVER: don't MIME the file even if there is a MIME cookie. kosta> What's your problem changing header lines? Maybe we can help you kosta> to do this somehow. Often this is not an option. Some mail systems have fixed headers. -- Piercarlo Grandi, Dept of CS, PC/UW@Aberystwyth <pcg@aber.ac.uk> E l'italiano cantava, cantava. E le sue disperate invocazioni giunsero alle orecchie del suo divino protettore, il dio della barzelletta
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!pipex!bnr.co.uk!uknet!gdt!aber!fronta.aber.ac.uk!pcg From: pcg@aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi) Newsgroups: comp.mail.mime Subject: Re: Using MIME without extra mail headers Message-ID: <PCG.93Jan13022930@decb.aber.ac.uk> Date: 13 Jan 93 02:29:30 GMT References: <1993Jan7.191810.1857@infodev.cam.ac.uk> <wBk7wB2w165w@blues.kk.sub.org> Sender: news@aber.ac.uk (USENET news service) Reply-To: pcg@aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi) Organization: Prifysgol Cymru, Aberystwyth Lines: 60 In-Reply-To: kosta@blues.kk.sub.org's message of 10 Jan 93 21: 31:55 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: decb.aber.ac.uk