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Re: /usr/mail/glenr.lock not creatable after 10 tries

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From: Jon Longstreth
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:51
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In article <23282@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM>, abao@sunwise (Angela Bao) writes:
|> glenr@aruba.UUCP (Glen Reesor) writes:
|> 
|> : mail: /usr/mail/glenr.lock not creatable after 10 tries
|> : 550 <glenr@onyx>... Can't create output
|> : 
|> 
|> I have a similar problem.   I have several HP 720 running 8.07 mounting
|> a Sun 4/470's /var/spool/mail as /usr/mail.    This SUN is also the 
|> NIS server for all these machines.    Mail worked fine for months.
|> The problem started occuring recently.   From time to time, I will get the
|> "lock not creatable after 10 tries" message during login, as root or as a
|> regular user.   The problem is INCONSISTENT.   Sometimes it happens only as
|> a normal user, sometimes only on certain machines.   Even worse, sometimes 
|> the login will completely hang.  Yet I can start another login session with no
|> problem and 'ps' indicates the hung login was at 'mail -e'.  I also notice
|> that the lock file is created with no permission bits set.
|> 
We have a similar set up, only we mount /usr/mail from a sun sparc-2.
Thing ran fine for about 2 weeks, then we started to get the 
"lock not createable after 10 tries" message.  Now the only 
response (or non response) we get is a hung process.  It seems to be
a problem with the lock file.  When the process is hung if we kill the
lock deamon on the local machine, the process comes back.  You can not
kill the process until the lockd is killed.
(of course this is a feature on hpux as you can't get a signal to a process
that is blocked on I/O :-)

We called HP about this and there response was
We will have an answer for you TOMORROW!

well, tomorrow was one week ago... still no response.

Any one out there have any ideas?

for now we have replaced mail and mailx with shell scripts telling people
to use elm.  (what a kludge!  yech!)

I hope someone out there might have an idea.

The oddest part is that it worked for weeks and the slowly stopped working.

--
Jon Longstreth         : CAE unix system staff             Dept. of Shade Trees
longstre@cae.wisc.edu  :"It's only water, in a strangers tears." -Peter Gabriel
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From: longstre@cae.wisc.edu (Jon Longstreth)
Subject: Re: /usr/mail/glenr.lock not creatable after 10 tries
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:51:18 CDT
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