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In article <13952@ucsd.Edu> brian@ucsd.Edu (Brian Kantor) writes:
>I don't know why I'm putting my foot into this one, but....

I'm glad you did.

One of the things I'm assuming is that most dumb (uucp) sites are going
to use From_ to route a return message while a smart site is going to use
From:.  My thinking is that if sites would leave From: alone and update
From_, then things would work.  Dumb sites would have a From_ with a full
path back to the sender, and smart sites would have an untarnished From:
to work with.

Just as you have sites saying "@ doesn't work in uucp, I'll make it !",
there are sites which say "! isn't RFC822, I'll make it @".  Then you
have the added dimension of complexity of what sites do with '!' in From:,
some add their name, others don't.  Everybody has their own idea of what
to do with From:, each arguable in its own right, but all ending up in a
conglomeration of gibberish.

>Gateway sites which want to go to the trouble of also supporting uucp
>"smart" hosts could have a way to leave the From [From:? -chip] lines
>alone, on the declaration that the destination can handle it.  But they
>shouldn't DEFAULT that way.

That's what I disagree with, but I might be confused in thinking that
dumb uucp mailers are using From_ instead of From: to route replies.  If
so, please do correct me.

In any case, '@' addressing is a good thing, as evidenced by the success
of the UUCP Project.  We should strive to support it, not hobble it.
Even if munging is the correct default, it not should be done as secretively
as uunet does.  It was a surprise to find a "smart hosts" list exists,
and even*after*requesting to be put on the list I'm still getting my
incoming From:'s munged.  That doesn't cause a problem, since the result
is invariably a usable "uunet!host.domain!user", but with munging discression
so difficult to achieve, I'm worried about what's happening to my outgoing
stuff.  Some of us uucp sites do take pains to try to maintain sanity in
our local mail system, and this should be encouraged.

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