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Re: Question about unsolicited Internet Email.

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From: Dan Hoey
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 23:54
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brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton) writes:

>Talk about over-reaction.  I am quite certain that the number of
>annoyed replies and bad publicity they got will be more than enough
>to educate and punish them for sending this mail.

Glad to hear it.  It's wonderful if they get bad publicity over these
shenanigans.  Maybe the rumors will get around so widely that the next
pinhead doesn't even try to send out junk email.

But what is the over-reaction?  If this sort of thing didn't cause
floods of email and postings no one would stop it.

todd@Gwinnett.COM (Todd Reese) writes:

]Over-reaction is an understatement.  Some people of the net went as far as
]looking up my MX record and threaten me by direct email and also to the
]sysadm's at my feed sites.

Good to hear they got your attention.  Unfortunately, you just don't
get it.

]I am quite upset at the self-righteous attitude of some of the people
]when a simple note to me would have been enough.

Don't be upset, just understand them.  There are a lot of annoyed
people out there, who are just being sure that the incident doesn't go
unnoticed.  They feel they have a right not to be put on mailing lists
in response to their postings, and they want to be sure it gets
stopped now and prevented in the future.

]When I found out about it, I did stop everything. Then the HATE mail started
]rolling in.  I have taken over the mail box for abacus@gwinnett.com and 
]mail in there has reached over 5 Meg.  A large return for 1.5 Meg total
]being sent out. About a dozen people of this mail responded by catting the
]man pages back to mail. What a childish reaction!

Trying to measure overreaction in terms of volume of junk mail sent
versus volume of angry letters plus email bombs is the stupidest
argument I've heard today, and that's something.  How about measuring
number of annoyed people versus number of satisfied people.

Sending email bombs is indeed an inexcusable form of network
terrorism.  Sending notes to feed sites is called raising a stink, and
if it raised a big enough stink that people actually fear being
disconnected from the net for this sort of idiocy, then that is the
desired result.

]They (Abacus) learned of their mistake within a short time.  People make
]mistakes in real life every day. Are those people of the net faultless??

Take the hate mail to heart.  Let Abacus know about it.  If you and
they think it's overreaction then you and they just don't get it.
People write to the net to fulfill their need for communication.  They
don't expect junk mail in return.  The presence of it threatens the
usefulness of Usenet as a whole, and must be vigorously suppressed.

``People make mistakes in real life.''  Someone at Abacus made a big
mistake in real life.  Not with impunity.

Dan Hoey
Hoey@AIC.NRL.Navy.Mil
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From: hoey@zogwarg.etl.army.mil (Dan Hoey)
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Subject: Re: Question about unsolicited Internet Email.
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Date: 6 Oct 92 23:54:34 GMT
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