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Re: Question about unsolicited Internet Email.

#2296
From: John De Armond
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 06:46
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ag129@cus.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant) writes:

>Yeah, good point. I kinda wonder what Emory and Clemson told Gwinnett Inc.,
>and what Gwinnett Inc. told its clients. 

Well since Clemson is in Alabama and only serves as the MX backup to 
Emory, one can safely assume they said nothing.  I have a pretty good
idea what was said from Emory too.  

>Have we got companies conducting
>corporate business over research segments of the Internet, because they
>don't know any better? I'm not saying that these universities or this
>network provider are involved, but it's only when something like a random
>mailshot happens that we would ever find out about it!

There he goes with that "we" crap again.  What is it with a few of you
Brits that you think you're involved in internal American affairs?
Or even know enough to intelligently comment?

More to the point, Gwinnette and Dixie are similarly configured commercial
public access sites.  I maintain multiple commercial network connections
in addition to those with academic institutions such as Emory.  I do that
for reliability and to insulate myself from policy vagrancies that may
arise from any one connection site.

Now you and a few others have been masturbating over emory being
in the mail path.  Let's just suppose for the sake of argument
that this mail that you've screamed about routed instead through
a commercial connection like PSInet or UUNET that has no academic AUP?
What would you scream about then?

This hypothetical really brings the issue to a head.  It points out that
if some net does not want a certain kind of traffic, it is its 
responsibility to do the filtering.  Since there is no "commercial"
bit in the IP header, the whole concept is silly.  The "solution" to
your problem is the one I suggested a few days ago. Either pull the 
plug or accept the net as it exists.

John
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From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Subject: Re: Question about unsolicited Internet Email.
Message-ID: <r+kpc!+@dixie.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 06:46:53 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.
Keywords: question legal use email
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