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Re: Question about unsolicited Internet Email.

#2359
From: Lee Short
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:14
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In some stupid article jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
>
>There he goes with that "we" crap again.  What is it with a few of you
>Brits that you think you're involved in internal American affairs?
>Or even know enough to intelligently comment?

Ahh, that wonderful American diplomacy at work again!  :-)

It's refreshing to know that the European stereotype of Americans as
brash know-it-alls who think they own the world has some basis in
reality.  

I suppose IRA bomb threats emailed to the sysadmin at Oxford from the
guest account at Stanford would be an "internal American affair" as
well?

>More to the point, Gwinnette and Dixie are similarly configured commercial
>public access sites.  I maintain multiple commercial network connections
>in addition to those with academic institutions such as Emory.  I do that
>for reliability and to insulate myself from policy vagrancies that may
>arise from any one connection site.
>
>This hypothetical really brings the issue to a head.  It points out that
>if some net does not want a certain kind of traffic, it is its 
>responsibility to do the filtering.  

I see.  Even if the network you connect to has restrictions on what is
acceptable traffic, it is their responsibility to filter out traffic
which doesn't meet those restrictions, even if you've agreed to meet
said restrictions.  

>     Since there is no "commercial"
>bit in the IP header, the whole concept is silly.  

Have you ever stopping ranting for long enough to consider *why there
is no such bit*?  

>     The "solution" to
>your problem is the one I suggested a few days ago. Either pull the 
>plug or accept the net as it exists.
>
>John

The solution to *our* problem is called cooperation.  Evidently this
is a concept new to you.  

May you be cursed with the network you think you want.  

Lee
-- 
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Lee Short                           the first virtual beer.  
Software Janitor        I speak for none of the many steps in the food chain
Hughes Training, Inc.         between myself and General Motors corporation.
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From: short@asf.com (Lee Short)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,news.admin.misc
Subject: Re: Question about unsolicited Internet Email.
Keywords: question legal use email
Message-ID: <1992Oct13.211451.9608@asf.com>
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:14:51 GMT
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