🚀 go-pugleaf

jeh@cmkrnl.uucp writes:

> In article <VJmw32w164w@qed.tcc.com>, tim@qed.tcc.com (Tim Capps) writes:
> > Hear, hear!  I for one am really tired of seeing "oh, you can just get
> > this via anonymous FTP".  Pah.  There is nothing more annoying than
> > finding all about what you CAN'T get.
> 
> Of course you can get it.  All you need to do is to do exactly what all the
> existing Internet sites have done:  Pay for some form of tcp/ip link to the
> Internet.  
> 
> It may be that your budget does not allow for this.  (Mine doesn't.)  Fine, 
> you can sign up with uunet, but use them ONLY for uucp'ing stuff that you ask
> them to grab for you via ftp.  The cost for this is not all that high.  

Hey, a constructive response!  Now, that's a novel thing these days!
Now, that's a good idea.  I hadn't thought of that.   Maybe I'll do that.
The only alternative I had come up with is PSI.  They charge $120/mo flat
fee, which is far too much, considering the amount of FTP I'd actually do
(once in a blue moon).  Besides, (and I know this is probably flame bait,
but what the heck) based on what I have heard about the facsist contracts
PSI wants you to sign, you can count me out with that company.

> Oh, you wanted to get at that stuff for free!  Well... perhaps you wil feel
> better if you realize that THE PEOPLE WITH REAL INTERNET LINKS ARE NOT GETTIN
> IT FOR FREE EITHER.  They pay big bucks for their leased lines, 56K or T1
> modems, router boxes, etc., etc., not to mention competent technical people t
> keep the stuff running.  

No, I didn't ever say that.

> And when they got on the Internet they never signed anything that said "we
> agree to free and unlimited use of these facilities by uucp sites who want
> access to worldwide anon ftp archives for the cost of a local phone call". 
> 
> You get what you pay for.  There are mechanisms by which a uucp-only site can
> access anon ftp archives, for a fair price that covers their hosts' costs of
> Internet access.  

Like I said, I never said that.  Take a few deep breaths please, I got the
point already.

> All that has happened with the demise of bitftp, is that there are now fewer
> mechanisms by which a uucp-only site can access such archives while others
> (sometimes unknowingly) foot the bill for their fun.  
> 
> I don't see this as a major tragedy. 

Me neither.

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