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Dialmail, ENVOY 100, OMNET, ONTYME Access

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From: Joan Gargano
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1988 23:07
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I posted a request for information to the net the week before
Christmas regarding information on Dialmail, Envoy 100,
OnNet/ScienceNet and ONTYME.  Thank you to everyone who sent
information.

Annette DeSchon and Jon Postel have put together an very nice
document, "Mail Forwarding Between Telemail and Arpa-Mail Using
Intermail".  The document is about six pages long so please contact me
or Annette DeSchon for a copy, DeSchon@B.ISI.EDU, 1-213-822-1511.

Here is a summary of the responses.

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Russ@11.DAS.NET or at (408) 559-7970.
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The DASnet(R) Network--DASnet Subscriptions:

A DASnet Subscription allows you to exchange electronic mail (e-mail)
with anyone on more than 15 systems and networks, INCLUDING:
    ATT Mail, DASnet(R) Network, DCMETA, Dialcom(SM), EIES,
    EasyLink(R), Envoy 100(TM), FAX, GeoMail, MCI Mail(R), NWI(R),
    PeaceNet/EcoNet, Portal Communications(TM), The Source(R),
    Telemail(R), ATI's Telemail (Japan), Telex, TWICS (Japan),
    UNISON(R), UUCP, The WELL, Domains e.g. ".COM" and ".EDU".

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                           DA Systems, Inc.
                         1503 E. Campbell Ave.
                          Campbell, CA  95008
                             408-559-7434
                         TELEX:  910 380-3530
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From: mcvax!hafro.IS!eirikur@uunet.UU.NET (Eirikur T. Einarsson)
Organization: Marine Research Institute, Reykjavik

There is no gateway to DIALMAIL.  You have to have a password which you
can only use for that system.  I asked the DIALMAIL people a year ago
if they would make it possible to send mail into DIALMAIL, then they
said that they did not have any intentions to make that possible in the
near future.

Posted: Mon  Aug 31, 1987   3:24 PM EDT              Msg: MGIH-3120-8073
From:   OMNET.SERVICE
To:     MRI.Iceland.Library
Subj:   Envoy 100 

Interface Info
It is possible to communicate with a number of organizations outside Omnet
using GTE Telemail systems in other countries, as well as the U.S.
These include Envoy, Edunet, NASAMail, GSFCMail, and J.P.L.  Exchanging
messages between the MAIL (where Omnet is located) and TELEMAIL branches of 
the network is actually quite easy.  You simply address a message as usual, 
but the address must contain extra information in a special format for the
message to be properly routed.  Using the correct format is the key to a 
successful 'interface'.  Here is the basic format:
 
   [username/organization] system branch/country
 
The system branches are:
  MAIL/USA              -       The system that SCIENCEnet is on
  TNET.TELEMAIL/USA     -       Many GTE personnel are on this system
  TELEMAIL/USA          -       Includes much of NASA
  GTEMAIL/USA           -       More GTE personnel
  TM11/USA              -       US Dept. of Agriculture system
  GSFC/USA              -       Goddard Space Flight Center, NASA
  TELECOM/CANADA        -       The Envoy 100 service
  ATI/JAPAN             -       The Japanese ACE system
  PIPMAIL/TAIWAN        -
  TBXSPA/SWEDEN         -
  ITALMAIL/ITALY        -
 
The only tricky part is finding out which organization the person you're 
trying to reach is on.  Some possibilities are:
  NASA      (Telemail system)
  J.P.L.    (Telemail system)
  GSFCmail  (GSFC system)
  TELENET   (TNET.Telemail system)
 
Once you have discovered this, you can easily address the message.  For 
someone on NASAnet for example, you address your message like this:

   [JDOE/NASA] TELEMAIL/USA

Sending to someone on the Canadian Envoy 100 system would mean using an 
address with the following format:
   [ANortherner/organization] Telecom/Canada
Unfortunately, there's no way of doing intersystem directories, so you'll have
to get the correct information from the colleague that you're trying to reach.

Someone sending a message to you would type:

   [MRI.Iceland.Library/OMNET] MAIL/USA
 
The square brackets are very important to include, as well as the correct
spacing.
 
Please note that different organizations follow different formats.  Omnet
usernames (unless institutional acronyms) follow the format: first initial,
period, last name.  NASA organizations omit the period.

          
                          NETWORK CONNECTIONS
                        
    +-----------------+     +------------------+
    |                 |     |                  |
    |                 |     |    NETNORTH      |
    |     UUCP        |     |                  |
    |                 |     +------------------+---------------------+
    |                 |     |    BITNET        |     EARN            |
    |                 |     |                  |                     |
    |                 |     |                  |                     |
    +-----------------+     +------------------+---------------------+
             |     |                   |                           |
...!uunet    |     | ...!seismo        |                           |
             |     |                   |                           |
            [G]   [G]                  | CUNYVM.BITNET             |
             |     | SEISMO.CSS.GOV    |                           |
             |     +-------------+    [G]                          | UKACRL
             |                   |     |                           |
             +----------------+  |     | CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU          [G]
             UUNET.UU.NET     |  |     |                           | 
                              |  |     |                           | UK.AC.RL
                              |  |     |                           |
                           +---------------------+                 |
                           |                     |                 |
              RELAY.CS.NET |                     |                 |
              +------------|                     | NSS.CS.UCL.AC.UK|  
              |            |                     |------------[G]  |
             [G]           |                     | UK.AC.UCL.CS.NSS|
              |            |       ARPA/NSF      |             |   |
 RELAY.CS.NET |            |       INTERNET      |             |   |
   +--------------+        |                     |    +--------------+
   |              |        |                     |    |              |
   |              |        |                     |    |              |
   |    CSNET     |        |                     |    |    JANET     |
   |              |        +---------------------+    |              |
   |              |                    |              |              |
   |              |                    |              |              |
   +--------------+                    |              +--------------+
                   Intermail@C.ISI.EDU |
                                       |
                                   +---------+
             +---------------------|Intermail|---------------+
             |                     +---------+               |
  [Intermail/USCISI] Telemail/USA      |                     |
             |                         |                 64:CMP0817
             |                      107-8239             57:NSF153
             |                         |                 50:ONR143
          TELEMAIL                     |                     |
     +----------------+       +----------------+       +--------------+
     |                |       |     MCIMAIL    |       | DIALCOM      |  
     |    MAIL        |       |                |       |              |
     |    OMNET       |       |                |       |              |
     |    GTE         |       |                |       |              |  
     |    NASA        |       |                |       |              |
     |    TELENET     |       |                |       |              |
     |    GSFCMAIL    |       |                |       |              |
     +----------------+       +----------------+       +--------------+
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From: E. Fair	ucbvax!fair	fair@ucbarpa.berkeley.edu
Organization: USENET Protocol Police, Western Gateway Division

	ONTYME is a commercial, central Email service offered by
TYMNET (a subsidiary of McDonnel-Douglas Corp.). Your nearest TYMNET
salesman should have the relevant literature.

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Norman Soley - Data Communications Analyst - Ontario Ministry of the Environment
From uunet!mnetor!ontmoh!ontenv!norm

ENVOY 100 is a paid service, if a direct uucp <--> ENVOY gateway
exists it is very unlikely that the bill payer would publicize the
gateway as cost would be prohibative. However Bell Canada has just
enhances ENVOY 100 (it is now called ENVOY MHS) to comlpy with at
least some of the levels of X.400 and concurrently added a gateway
between ENVOY and ATTMAIL, this is currently in Beta test (so I'm lead
to believe by Bell). ATTMAIL is uucp-able but it too is a paid service
so I think that they require that you phone them directly, there was a
discussion about this recently on the net under the guise of a TELEX
to uucp gateway. 

-- 
Joan Gargano * Univ. of Calif., Davis, Computing Services * (916) 752-2591
Internet   jcgargano@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu
BITNET     jcgargano@ucdavis
UUCP       {ucbvax, lll-crg, sdcsvax}!ucdavis!jcgargano
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Subject: Dialmail, ENVOY 100, OMNET, ONTYME Access
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Date: 19 Jan 88 23:07:52 GMT
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