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dumb smart mailers

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From: Joe Dellinger
Date: Sun, 04 Sep 1988 08:55
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	Our machine, "hanauma", is connected to a few sites (notably
decvax for historical reasons) via uucp links and is also on the arpa
net as "hanauma.stanford.edu".

	When I send mail to some distant site, usually it is best
to get to the local area via the arpanet and then make some uucp
hops to get where I want to go, ie "isis!timna!seb@boulder.colorado.edu".

	The problem comes when somebody tries to invert this route.
Machines with "smart" mailers (such as isis) grab the mail destined
for us, no matter what the specified routing, and send it on to us
through decvax, which can take a week!

	I had thought that the correct way to announce that you
were also on the arpanet was to list yourself as a possible gateway;
this turned out to be an incredibly bad idea as machines all over
the country decided we were the BEST Stanford gateway, and started
routing all Stanford mail through New Hampshire!

	Is there something I'm missing here?

	I'm trying to collect the e-mail addresses of as many
Geophysicists interested in Anisotropy as possible, and so people
have been sending me "their address". So far, most of the addresses
I have received have been arpa-uucp mixtures, and most of them have
failed at the ARPA-uucp junction when I've tried them. Are things
really this bad, in general? Or is it just that Geophysicists make
rotten computer scientists? (Comes from being taught that FORTRAN
is a computer language, perhaps.)
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From: joe@hanauma (Joe Dellinger)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: dumb smart mailers
Message-ID: <23415@labrea.Stanford.EDU>
Date: 4 Sep 88 08:55:28 GMT
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Organization: Stanford University, Dept. of Geophysics
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