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Re: Mail to solbourne.com - what's missing?

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From: Erik E. Fair
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1989 07:36
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In the referenced article, dce@Solbourne.com (David Elliott) writes:
>We are a site with only UUCP access to the outside world.  We
>registered our domain (solbourne.com) with UUNET fairly recently, using
>nbires.nbi.com as our forwarding host.

That was your first mistake; your forwarder must be a real, honest to
god Internet (with a capital "I") site (which is to say that I can
open a TCP connection to them from anywhere else on the Internet).
nbires.nbi.com isn't a real Internet site; they're just like you.

>I have been told that the problem is that there is no MX record
>for us, but there is an NS record for us.

True. I checked with the nameserver here.

>I was under the impression that sites were supposed to have a
>forwarding host, who supposedly knows more about the world, that they
>sent mail to if the route could not be determined (I know that this is
>the case at MIPS and at Solbourne).

Not quite. A forwarder is simply an Internet site that will accept
mail for your domain, and forward it to you. All it has to be able
to do is recognize your name as distinct from its own, and deliver
whatever mail it accepted for your domain to you, by whatever means
it likes (UUCP, FidoNET, carrier pigeon, etc). It must be an Internet
site because the rest of the Internet wants to open a IP/TCP/SMTP
connection to them to hand off any mail for your domain. UUCP sites
route their mail (when they bother to route at all) in an entirely
different manner than the Internet.

>What do we need to do to get things set up so that everyone can
>send to us?

A UUCP neighbor who is an Internet site, and who is generous enough
to be your forwarder. Find one, arrange it with them, and then tell
UUNET what their fully qualified domain name is, so that UUNET can
install the necessary MX records in your domain servers.
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From: fair@UCBARPA.BERKELEY.EDU (Erik E. Fair)
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Subject: Re: Mail to solbourne.com - what's missing?
Message-ID: <8904220736.AA01317@ucbarpa.Berkeley.EDU>
Date: 22 Apr 89 07:36:22 GMT
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