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Re: Are Gmail accounts limited to one per person ?

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From: tkedwards
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 12:42
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> You are accessing a webserver to use your account, and
> that server logs whatever they want it to log, and can
> even get your username, etc., from your OS. I'd imagine
> that it would be a lot MORE information from a Windows
> box.
>
> So they have a little script running that compares the
> addresses each account on a particular IP sends and/or
> receives mail from. Too many similarities and you are
> busted. Doesn't have to be from the same IP. Just the
> same place. They can pin that down with a variety of
> software.  Not a physical place, but an _electronic_
> place on the phone or cable systems. Those electronic
> places all exist in real space too: Junction boxes and
> switching centers and the like.
>
> They can also measure the amount of time it takes a
> packet to get to a particular IP (interface) compared
> to that of one nearby in a known location.
>
> Trolls have very predictable patterns of behavior.  As
> I refer to above, they always send mail/news/web-posts/
> IRC input...from multiple aliases/servers/addresses to
> the SAME places, and the above script is but one that
> is guaranteed to catch them out.
>
> They really aren't very bright. That's why they
> regularly vanish for long periods when they cross
> the line. They THINK they are really clever, but the
> netadmins know who they are almost effortlessly, and
> can pick them off whenever they choose, letting all of
> the other netadmins know who it was they aced. They
> have shared databases that are not open to the public.
>
> Yes. They know who you are. Your name, address, phone
> number, just for starters. They know all or most of
> your aliases. And will soon know any new ones.
>
> You forget: They CONTROL those servers and
> routers. They have full access to logs that THEY create
> and the control of the businessmen who think they run
> them is minimal.  Those suits don't know shit about
> computers.
>
You are a kook. For those of you who live in reality the fact is that
your IP address can be traced back to your ISP trivially easily.
However to actually find out who and where you are they would have to
successfuly subpoena your ISP in court for their logs and your customer
account details. This is how the music industry spies trace back
alleged 'pirates' to the point where they can file a lawsuit against a
named individual living at a particular address. Unless you work for
the CIA tapping telephone junction boxes, analysis of net-wide
'behaviour patterns' and secret 'netadmin' (whoever they are?)
databases are the stuff of spy fiction novels and kooks like the
previous poster.

The long and the short of it is:
1) google gives these things away for free anyway
2) the cost of trying to setup a system to catch 2 people using the
same account would far outweigh any advertising revenue they get from
the service while simultaneously providing absolutely no cost savings -
after all if 2 ppl use the same account its still limited to 2GB or
whatever just like all the other accounts.
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