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Re: Bitnet gateways?

#708
From: Christopher Davis
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1989 02:14
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From article <31808@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>,
by wisner@mica.Berkeley.EDU (Bill Wisner):
> You seem to misunderstand. UUNET is not a network. It is not an
> interchangeable term for 'the UUCP network.' It is one specific
> machine performing one specific service. 

On 14 Oct 89 14:39:03 GMT,
ahd@image.soe!clutx.clarkson.edu (Drew Derbyshire,,,9143397425) said:

Drew> :soapbox.

Drew> Well, then they should drop off the internet, or refuse to be added to  
Drew> the maps.  Well connected systems which exist to perform mail delivery
Drew> end up general gateways, unless they explicitly restrict mail delivery
Drew> channels.   

Which they have so far not done--not that they haven't thought of it, or
been tempted to do it.  Overuse of this sort of thing will probably cause
them to start bouncing mail.  [Disclaimer: I don't work there.  I've never
met anyone who works there personally.  I *have* used their anonymous ftp
service, at extremely off-peak hours...(college student hours, y'know :-)
and I'm sure I've kicked a goodly number of Kbytes of postings into their
newsfeeds.  I'm sort of the anti-Sy Sperling of UUNET: "I'm not the
President of the company--I'm not even a client."]

Drew> My personal understanding of UUNET was that it was not limited to
Drew> 'customers' but rather served as a not-for-profit backbone (along
Drew> with other sites) for UUCP; like any good backbone, it is well
Drew> connected and in a practical sense encourages good mail (i.e. by the
Drew> fastest route).

Drew> UUNET's offer of anonymous ftp service clearly strengthens this, if
Drew> it wants to be known as UUCP host rather than a generic mail server,
Drew> it should drop the internet oriented services.

Given that they are already paying for the Internet connection
($4000/month) to improve service for their customers, their offering of ftp
services and the like is reasonable (and much welcome, by me).

Drew> I LIKE UUNET the way it is.

Agreed.  Let's help keep it this way by not sending all our mail that's
"too hard to route" to them.

Drew> :Esoapbox.

Drew> Drew Derbyshire
-- 
 Christopher Davis, BU SMG '90  <ckd@bu-pub.bu.edu> <smghy6c@buacca.bitnet>
 "Technology is dominated by those who manage what they do not understand."
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