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6 total messages Started by Jack E. Wilkinson Sun, 09 Aug 1992 22:41
Internet to MCI Mail Gateway problems...
#134
Author: Jack E. Wilkinson
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1992 22:41
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For the last couple of years I've been sending mail from "the internet" to
MCI Mail with no problems.  For the last two weekends any mail I've sent
has bounced back with the following header...
..............................................................................
From NRI.Reston.VA.US!mmdf Sat Aug  8 02:45:06 1992
Received: by drbear.COM (smail2.5)
	id AA15885; 8 Aug 92 02:45:04 PDT (Sat)
Received: by uucp-gw-1.pa.dec.com; id AA09036; Sat, 8 Aug 92 00:35:09 -0700
Received: by inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com; id AA29523; Sat, 8 Aug 92 00:34:55 -0700
Date:     Sat, 8 Aug 92 3:09:50 EDT
From: Postmaster@NRI.Reston.VA.US
Sender: mmdf@NRI.Reston.VA.US
Subject:  MCI Mail rejected a message
To: drbear!jackw@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com
X-Orig-Sender: @uucp-gw-1.pa.dec.com:drbear!jackw@decwrl.dec.com
Message-Id:  <9208080309.aa00935@NRI.Reston.VA.US>
Status: RO

The following mail message could not be forwarded
to MCI Mail for the following Recipients:

        To: 0004538956 <0004538956@mcimail.com>


MCI Mail stated the message could not be sent because:

At least one problem with envelope
686 Organization Name or MCI ID must be included in address when sending to 
    a Non MCI employee
           MCI ID   Name                       Organization    Location
           453-8956 Celia Wilkinson                            Menlo Park, CA 
TO:        0004538956
           EMS: MCI Mail
           MBX: 0004538956

615 Message must include at least one TO:  recipient

Your message follows:

Received: from uucp-gw-1.pa.dec.com by NRI.Reston.VA.US id aa00730;
          8 Aug 92 3:02 EDT
Received: by uucp-gw-1.pa.dec.com; id AA06293; Fri, 7 Aug 92 23:57:25 -0700
Received: by drbear.COM (smail2.5)id AA14661; 7 Aug 92 22:15:02 PDT (Fri)
To: momw@pa.dec.com
Subject: cdc summary 8/4/92
Message-Id: <9208072215.AA14657@drbear.COM>
Date: 7 Aug 92 22:15:00 PDT (Fri)
From: "Jack E. Wilkinson" <jackw@drbear.com>
..............................................................................

The folks at MCI tell me that this long published gateway is a) expiremental
only and b) that they aren't sure what's goping on.  Anyone else seeing this
problem??

Peace... 
-- 
Jack E. Wilkinson            \           Drummer Bear Systems
1259 El Camino Real, #214     \          Providing computer and theatre
Menlo Park, CA 94025          /\         production services since 1984.
I am out, therefore I am!    /  \   jackw@drbear.COM or ...!decwrl!drbear!jackw
Re: Internet to MCI Mail Gateway problems...
#135
Author: homo obsolescensis
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 02:40
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In article <894@drbear.COM> you write:
>For the last couple of years I've been sending mail from "the internet" to
>MCI Mail with no problems.  For the last two weekends any mail I've sent
>has bounced 

I wrote to the postmaster last week about this and got back the
appended note.  Unfortunately, despite the bit about the problem being
fixed, it happened again this morning.
Walter Henry
Stanford Univ Libraries

>Date: Mon, 03 Aug 92 20:22:46 -0400
>From: mmdf@NRI.Reston.VA.US
>Message-Id:  <9208032022.aa24200@NRI.Reston.VA.US>
>
>Hello,
>
>
>MCI Mail has recently added some new security enhancements for
>processing of electronic messages.  The implementation of these
>features inadvertently caused some messages to be rejected that
>were sent from the experimental Internet gateway to MCI Mail.  MCI
>has made the appropriate system changes to rectify the situation
>which will prevent this problem from reoccurring.
>
>Our records indicate that you received a non-delivery notification
>prior to implementing our system changes.  We apologize for any
>inconvenience this has caused and request that you please resend
>those messages for delivery.
>
>MCI MAIL
Re: Internet to MCI Mail Gateway problems...
#138
Author: Andy Finkenstadt
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 13:12
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jackw@drbear.COM (Jack E. Wilkinson) writes:
>For the last couple of years I've been sending mail from "the internet" to
>MCI Mail with no problems.  For the last two weekends any mail I've sent
>has bounced back with the following header...
>..............................................................................
[deleted]
>At least one problem with envelope
>686 Organization Name or MCI ID must be included in address when sending to 
>    a Non MCI employee
>           MCI ID   Name                       Organization    Location
>           453-8956 Celia Wilkinson                            Menlo Park, CA 
>TO:        0004538956
>           EMS: MCI Mail
>           MBX: 0004538956
>615 Message must include at least one TO:  recipient

Note that it tells you that the destination is not included in
the headers - even though the envelope has the correct address.

>Your message follows:
>Received: from uucp-gw-1.pa.dec.com by NRI.Reston.VA.US id aa00730;
>          8 Aug 92 3:02 EDT
>Received: by uucp-gw-1.pa.dec.com; id AA06293; Fri, 7 Aug 92 23:57:25 -0700
>Received: by drbear.COM (smail2.5)id AA14661; 7 Aug 92 22:15:02 PDT (Fri)
>To: momw@pa.dec.com
>Subject: cdc summary 8/4/92
>Message-Id: <9208072215.AA14657@drbear.COM>
>Date: 7 Aug 92 22:15:00 PDT (Fri)
>From: "Jack E. Wilkinson" <jackw@drbear.com>
>..............................................................................

As you can see, there is no "To:" in the headers of the mail item as
received by mci.

This is flat out wrong - no mailer should be looking inside the
envelope to know where to send it.

-- 
Andrew Finkenstadt       | Vista-Chrome, Inc.   |           andy@GEnie
GEnie Unix Sysop/Manager | The Printing House   |    NIC Handle: AF136
+1 904 222 2639 home     | 1600 Capital Cir SW  |   ...!uunet!rde!andy
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Re: Internet to MCI Mail Gateway problems...
#141
Author: homo obsolescensis
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 18:00
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In article <1992Aug10.131251.28516@homebase.vistachrome.com> andy@homebase.vistachrome.com writes:
>>           MBX: 0004538956
>>615 Message must include at least one TO:  recipient
>
>Note that it tells you that the destination is not included in
>the headers - even though the envelope has the correct address.

I got the same bounce message, even though my message did have a valid
To: field.  

Walter Henry
Stanford Univ. Libraries
Re: Internet to MCI Mail Gateway problems...
#1040
Author: Warren Burstein
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 21:46
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I had the same problem, so I sent mail to postmaster@nri.reston.va.us,
I didn't save the response, but it was along the lines of there was a
problem and it's been fixed.  I re-sent the messages that bounced and
they got thru.
-- 
/|/-\/-\       The entire auditorium		Jerusalem
 |__/__/_/     is a very strange gauze pad.
 |warren@      But the weeder
/ nysernet.org is paranoid.
Re: Internet to MCI Mail Gateway problems...
#150
Author: Monty Solomon
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 09:30
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In article <894@drbear.COM> jackw@drbear.COM (Jack E. Wilkinson) writes:
> For the last couple of years I've been sending mail from "the internet" to
> MCI Mail with no problems.  For the last two weekends any mail I've sent
> has bounced back with the following header...

I was also having the same problem.

Here is a response from MCI:


MCI Mail has recently added some new security enhancements for
processing of electronic messages.  The implementation of these
features inadvertently caused some messages to be rejected that
were sent from the experimental Internet gateway to MCI Mail.  MCI
has made the appropriate system changes to rectify the situation
which will prevent this problem from reoccurring.

Our records indicate that you received a non-delivery notification
prior to implementing our system changes.  We apologize for any
inconvenience this has caused and request that you please resend
those messages for delivery.

A database update failed, causing the problem to occur again;
the PROBLEM has been corrected.        



-- 
# Monty Solomon / PO Box 2486 / Framingham, MA  01701-0405
# monty%roscom@think.com
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