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Started by Melvin Klassen
Sun, 05 Apr 1992 22:27
Re: Nomination for Stupid Mailer of the Month award
Author: Melvin Klassen
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1992 22:27
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1992 22:27
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Karl_Kleinpaste@cs.cmu.edu writes: >My nomination for this month's Stupid Mailer award is below. In and >of itself, it's not all that exciting: It's a bounce-o-gram from a >note that went out to the firearms mailing list, which I maintain, >landing in my "mailer-daemon" personal quasi-newsgroup. The kicker is >that although the intended recipient (purportedly an unknown mailbox; >the problem will almost surely clear itself up without me even having >to ask about it) is in the Netherlands, and the note went that way >directly on the way out, it came back by way of...Israel! > >Let's give a hearty cheer for the bitnet..."*whimper*" > >UNIX-From: @godiva.nectar.cs.cmu.edu,@VM.BIU.AC.IL:Postman@RULMVS.LEIDENUNIV.NL >X-Envelope-To: karl+ >Received: from godiva.nectar.cs.cmu.edu by N2.SP.CS.CMU.EDU id aa24575; > 4 Apr 92 15:38:15 EST >Received: from vm.biu.ac.il by GODIVA.NECTAR.CS.CMU.EDU id aa09920; > 4 Apr 92 15:37:45 EST >Received: from HLERUL2.BITNET by VM.BIU.AC.IL (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) > with BSMTP id 0132; Sat, 04 Apr 92 23:31:35 IST >Date: Sat, 04 Apr 92 03:43 CET >To: firearms-Request@GODIVA.NECTAR.CS.CMU.EDU >From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <Postman%RULMVS.LEIDENUNIV.NL@VM.BIU.AC.IL> >Subject: Undelivered mail There's more than "the bitnet" involved here! A single copy of the posting probably went, over BITNET, across the Atlantic, to LISTSERV@BARILVM (a.k.a. VM.BIU.AC.IL), along with a list of European IDs to which the posting was to be delivered, including the recipient, who has forwarded the E-mail to the 'POSTMAN4' account. So, LISTSERV@BARILVM passed a copy of the posting to 'SMTP@VM.BIU.AC.IL', and eventually the mailer-daemon at RULMVS.LeidenUniv.NL (a.k.a. HLERUL2), generated the "bounce" message. All the routing information which got the piece of E-mail to RULMVS has been preserved, so the "bounce" message takes the inverse route of the original message, which routes it back through Israel, since it arrived via Israel. Not "stupid" at all! the mailer-daemon at HR
Re: Nomination for Stupid Mailer of the Month award
Author: Karl_Kleinpaste
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 04:45
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 04:45
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klassen@sol.UVic.CA writes: There's more than "the bitnet" involved here! No, there's not. A single copy of the posting probably went, over BITNET, across the Atlantic, to LISTSERV@BARILVM (a.k.a. VM.BIU.AC.IL), False. I don't know about you, but I use Received: headers to determine the outgoing path of a message. For this note, the relevant one is... | Received: from GODIVA.NECTAR.CS.CMU.EDU by rulsur.LeidenUniv.nl (PMDF #12291) | id <01GIFOK4Q8000007O6@rulsur.LeidenUniv.nl>; Sat, 4 Apr 1992 03:43 MET Direct from CMU to the Netherlands in one hop, by IP. --karl
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