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I got a copy, and there seem to be a bunch of people on the one-time
mailing list set up to send out the advertisement who are busy being
confused about how to get off the mailing list.

beta.lanl.gov is a site on ESnet, the Department of Energy "Energy
Sciences" network funded by the US Gov't.  Of all networks, ESnet has some
of the most restrictive policies, essentially limiting the use of their
net to only activities critical to the agencies involved, and explicitly
*not* a public infrastructure role a la NSFnet.  They tend to be pretty
finicky about it, to the point of being antsy when commercial sites hook
up to the internet, and absolutely paranoid about certain European nets
getting connected.

(sigh)

  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 4562

: > Date:   Sun, 11 Oct 1992 08:23:36 -0400
: > From:   rsilver@beta.lanl.gov (Roland Silver)
: > Message-Id: <9210111223.AA02014@beta.lanl.gov>
: > To:     rsml1@beta.lanl.gov
: > Subject: fractal newsletter
: >
: > I publish a newsletter about fractals called Amygdala (29 issues so 
: > far) which you may be interested in.

frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) writes:

>> I publish a newsletter about fractals called Amygdala (29 issues so 
>> far) which you may be interested in.

>[...stuff deleted...]

>> The price for 10 issues, including First Class / Air Mail postage, is
>> US $28.20; Canada/Mexico $32.00; Other $39.00

I really appreciate your posting that ad.  I'm nuts about fractals and read
whatever I can on the subject.  I'll be subscribing just as soon as I 
get the full text of the ad from that fellow.

See how useful net.advertising is?  Even when you don't mean to?

John

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In <samp2@dixie.com> jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:

>frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) writes:

>>> I publish a newsletter about fractals called Amygdala (29 issues so 
>>> far) which you may be interested in.
[...]
>I really appreciate your posting that ad.  I'm nuts about fractals and read
>whatever I can on the subject.  I'll be subscribing just as soon as I 
>get the full text of the ad from that fellow.

>See how useful net.advertising is?  Even when you don't mean to?

John, John, John.  I usually agree with you on things, but this is too far.

You don't PAY for other folks to send you junk paper mail -- they do. 
You don't PAY for teleslime to call you up on the phone at all hours
and pitch their latest brand of snake oil -- THEY DO.  (And handsomely, too,
if they happen to call me more than once.... can you say, using a 
common carrier for harrassment?)

Those who have to PAY for their news and mail (including YOUR CUSTOMERS) have
every right to be upset when Tweedle-dee out in la-la land sends them junk
e-mail that *they*, the recipients, have to PAY for.  That's a fact.  I'll go
one further, though, and opine that anyone@dixie.com has a right to be upset
at one John deArmond for ENCOURAGING behaviour that has the potential to
*increase his revenues* by increasing the amount of download time charged on
his machine... without his having spent a dime.  Well, TANSTAAFL.

Keep your laws off my body, keep your hands off my guns, and keep your
junk e-mail off the net.  That's what biz.* is for.

Glenn R. Stone (glenns@eas.gatech.edu)
these opinions are MINE, and you can't have them.

In article <70941@hydra.gatech.EDU> you write:
>In <samp2@dixie.com> jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
>>See how useful net.advertising is?  Even when you don't mean to?
>
>John, John, John.  I usually agree with you on things, but this is too far.

John is only guilty of not including a disclaimer for the humor-impaired.

Go back and read it again.  This time imagine you hear sarcasm.

The point was that Steve Frampton's quote included the advertising, thereby
propagating it.  I'm sure Steve didn't intend it, which is what was
meant by "Even when you don't mean to" above.

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