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Started by alanb
Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:04
ATTMail to MCIMail and X.400 gateway(?)
Author: alanb
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:04
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:04
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Greetings!
I am experiencing great difficulty in establishing e-mail communications with
a friend. My friend's employer uses MCIMail and my Internet gateway is
through ATTMail.
My Internet address is "alanb@quality1.attmail.com" and my friend's Internet
address is in the form of "company/machine/logon%1234567@mcimail.com".
When my friend attempts to send me e-mail, he gets a bounce stating something
to the effect of "MCImail does not permit communications to ATTmail via the
Internet."
When I try sending e-mail, the problems are even worse. My machine doesn't
support TCP-IP, so I've got to use a UUCP equivalent of his address. If I use
the full pathname (company/machine/logon), the mail is bounced by the attmail
machine. If I omit the pathname and just use the logon, I get the following
bounce from mmdf@MCIMail.com:
The MCI Mial/INTERNET gateway System
encountered the following violations:
Delivery to MCI Mail from attmail.com
via the Internet is not permitted.
I tried calling MCIMail for help. They told me that we had to use an X.400
gateway in order to communicate via e-mail. They gave me the following
information to use:
c=us
a=mci
dda=ems=1234567
dda=mbx=company/machine/logon
But, they wouldn't tell me where to find or how to use an X.400 gateway. So,
we've hit a dead end.
Can anyone help me put together the missing pieces? Any help would be greatly
appreciated! Please e-mail all responses to "alanb@quality1.attmail.com" (I
don't have access to Usenet, so please use e-mail).
Thank you very much,
Alan
p.s. - "1234567" is not the real MCIMail address--it just represents a 7-digit
MCIMail address.
Re: ATTMail to MCIMail and X.400 gateway(?)
Author: James.Gorak
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 07:18
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 07:18
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In <9212281504.AA18147@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu
> alanb@Quality1.attmail.com writes:
>I am experiencing great difficulty in establishing e-mail communications with
>a friend. My friend's employer uses MCIMail and my Internet gateway is
>through ATTMail.
(part deleted...)
>Can anyone help me put together the missing pieces? Any help would be greatly
>appreciated! Please e-mail all responses to "alanb@quality1.attmail.com" (I
>don't have access to Usenet, so please use e-mail).
Here is info from MCI Mail help files on exchanging messages with ATT
Mail via the X.400 gateway. You may want to check the ATT Mail help
files for info on entering X.400 addresses on the ATT Mail system.
If you can get these instructions to your friend who is on MCI Mail, you
friend can than attempt to send you a message by following the MCI Mail
X.400 instructions. When you (hopefully) receive your friends message
you can check the "From:" line to see how your friends return address
looks on your system. If it works your home free. If it does not work
have your friend call the MCI Mail help desk and request assistance from
an X.400 specialist. I have hade similar difficulities but have always
been able to resolve them with a some effort and sometimes assistance
MCI Mail's customer service help desk.
+--------------------------------------+
| Command: HELP ATTMAIL |
+--------------------------------------+
Now you can exchange electronic mail with US AT&T Mail
subscribers and private systems connected to AT&T Mail. It's as
easy as sending an MCI Mail message.
And during the special introductory period, there is no
additional charge. You pay the same prices as for any MCI Mail
Instant Letter.
All you need to know is your AT&T Mail recipient's E-mail
address.
Type HELP X400 TERMS for an explanation of X.400 addressing
terms.
Type HELP ADDRESS ATTMAIL for details on addressing the envelope
for an AT&T Mail recipient.
Type HELP X400 RECEIVE for details on how to provide your AT&T
Mail correspondents your MCI Mail address.
+--------------------------------------+
| Command: HELP ADDRESS ATTMAIL |
+--------------------------------------+
Using X.400 addressing, you can exchange messages with AT&T Mail
subscribers and private systems connected to AT&T Mail.
------------------------------------
Addressing AT&T Mail Subscribers:
------------------------------------
To send a message to an AT&T Mail subscriber, you need to know
your recipient's AT&T Mail address (also known as their O/R
name). The best way to guarantee you have the correct
information is to check with your correspondent.
Generally, an X.400 E-mail address consists of a mail system
name (ATTMail), the country in which the mail system operates
(US), and a personal name (broken into Surname and Given name).
MCI Mail does not require you to supply the Country, however.
If the AT&T Mail subscriber has a fairly common name, you should
include their AT&T Mail Username to ensure delivery. The AT&T
Mail Username is usually the person's first initial followed by
their last name. See Note 1 for special instructions when
including the AT&T Mail Username.
Directions on how to address an AT&T Mail subscriber from MCI
Mail follow. Create your message and type your recipient's last
name on the TO or CC line. Type (EMS) following the name. At
the EMS prompt, enter ATTMail. In the MBX lines that follow,
type the rest of your AT&T Mail recipient's name. You must label
the information you enter. Place an equal sign between the
label and the information. Note, there CANNOT be any spaces
before or after the equal sign.
The valid X.400 labels are:
SU=Surname (or Last name)
GI=Given name (or first name)
IN=Initials
GE=Generational Qualifier
OR=Organization
UN=Organization Unit
PR=Private domain (PRMD)
DDA=Domain-defined Attribute
What you enter:
(Note that few labels are required)
CREATE
TO: Recipient's Last name (EMS)
EMS: ATTMail
MBX: GI=Recipient's First name
MBX: (carriage return)
--------------------------------------------------------------
Note 1. Addressing an AT&T Mail subscriber by his/her Username:
--------------------------------------------------------------
When an AT&T Mail subscriber's name is not unique on AT&T Mail,
it is necessary to supply his/her Username in the address. This
is done with a Domain Defined Attribute (DDA). The Username is
entered in the MBX line and is preceeded by: DDA=ID= There
cannot be any spaces between the equal sign and the AT&T Mail
Username.
What you enter:
CREATE
TO: Recipient's Last name (EMS)
EMS: ATTMail
MBX: GI=Recipient's First name
MBX: DDA=ID=Recipient's AT&T Mail Username
MBX: (carriage return)
---------------------------------------------------------
Addressing Messages to X.400 PRMDs connected to AT&T Mail
---------------------------------------------------------
To address a message to someone on a private mail system (PRMD)
connected to AT&T Mail, enter the X.400 address information that
the private system needs to deliver the message to your
correspondent. Check with your correspondent to determine which
O/R name attributes (or components) are required to send him/her
messages.
A message to a private e-mail system (PRMD) connected to AT&T
Mail is created the same way a message to a AT&T Mail subscriber
is created. Note that an additional X.400 component, the PRMD,
is required and placed in an MBX line.
What you enter:
CREATE
TO: Recipient's Surname (EMS)
EMS: ATTMail
MBX: PR=Recipient's mail system name
MBX: GI=Recipient's First name
MBX: OR=Recipient's Organization Optional
MBX: (carriage return)
If additional information is required
to ensure delivery, be sure to enter
it, appropriately labeled, in the MBX
lines.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Addressing Messages to AT&T Mail Remote Electronic Mail Systems
(Non-standard Gateways)
---------------------------------------------------------------
To address a message to someone on a remote mail system
connected via a non-standard gateway to AT&T Mail, additional
address information must be entered. To ensure accuracy, check
with your correspondent for their correct address.
A message to an AT&T remote system is created in much the same
way a message to a AT&T Mail subscriber is created. Note that
two additional addressing components are required. These are
Organization and DDA. They are labeled OR= and DDA= and are
placed in an MBX line.
What you enter:
CREATE
TO: Recipient's Surname (EMS)
EMS: ATTMail
MBX: GI=Recipient's First name
MBX: OR=Recipient's Organization
MBX: DDA=ID=System Path(b)USERNAME
MBX: (carriage return)
For UNIX destinations -
MBX: DDA=ID=<Unix System>(b)Username
For PROFS destinations -
MBX: DDA=ID=<PROFS System>(b)Username
For 3780 destinations -
MBX: DDA=ID=<3780 System>(b)Username
+--------------------------------------+
| Command: HELP X400 RECEIVE |
+--------------------------------------+
What is your MCI Mail X.400 Address?
X.400, the internationally approved standard for connecting
electronic mail systems, has made possible the interconnection
of MCI Mail and X.400-based private (corporate mail systems) and
public electronic mail services.
MCI Mail subscribers and connected systems may exchange E-mail
messages with Telemail and AT&T Mail subscribers as well as
private systems connected to Telemail and AT&T Mail.
MCI Mail subscribers should provide their O/R names to the
people with whom they wish to communicate. Generally, here is
the information you should provide:
ADMD MCI
Country US
Surname Your last name (as registered on MCI Mail)
Given name Your first name (as registered on MCI Mail)
If your name is fairly common, and the above information is not
sufficient to uniquely identify you on MCI Mail, provide the
following additional information:
DDA "ID" plus your unique MCI ID. (See note 1 below.)
Organization Your organization. (See note 2 below.)
If your mailbox is not in the name of an individual, then the
entire mailbox name should be considered the Surname.
To find your MCI ID and Organization, type FIND NAME followed by
your name. Your name, MCI ID, and Organization - as registered
on MCI Mail - will be displayed.
O/R name example:
This is the O/R name MCI Mail subscriber Tom Matthews should
provide to those who wish to send him X.400 messages:
ADMD MCI
Country US
Surname Matthews
Givenname Thomas (He is registered on MCI Mail as Thomas, not Tom.)
DDA ID=1234567 (His MCI Mail ID)
Note 1 -- A Domain-defined attribute with your unique MCI Mail
ID is the most accurate way to ensure that a message will be
able to be delivered to your MCI Mailbox. When you provide this
information, tell your correspondent that they should use a DDA
with a type ID and the value is your 7 digit MCI ID.
Note 2 -- Organization sometimes helps identify a subscriber.
However, you need to be very careful with this component. If
you did not register an organization at the time you registered
your MCI Mail account, or you have changed your organization but
not notified MCI Mail, do not use this component. If someone
sends you a message and includes an incorrect (or partially
correct) organization, the message cannot be delivered to your
mailbox -- even if everything else is correct!
Also note that MCI Mail does not use Organization Unit to
identify MCI Mail subscribers. Do not provide one to your
correspondent.
Type HELP X400 TERMS for more information on X.400 addressing
terminology.
+--------------------------------------+
| Command: HELP X400 TERMS |
+--------------------------------------+
In order to properly exchange messages with X.400 mail
services, it is important to understand a little X.400
addressing terminology.
O/R Name is a common term. It means originator/recipient name.
It is made up of several components. They are:
ADMD - or Adminstrative Management Domain. This is a public
E-mail service. MCI is an ADMD. Telemail and AT&T Mail are
also ADMDs.
PRMD or Private Management Domain. This is a private -- usually
a corporate -- electronic mail system that is connected via
X.400 to an ADMD.
Country - the country in which the domain (PRMD or ADMD) resides.
Personal name is made up of the following 4 components:
- Surname - a person's last name.
- Given name - a person's first name.
- Initials - a person's initial(s).
- Generation Qualifier - Jr., Sr. for example.
Organization - the name of the organization to which a person
belongs.
Organizational Unit - the department or division of an organization.
Domain-defined attribute (DDA) - a special field that helps the
receiving system know how to deliver a message to the recipient.
MCI has designed brief labels for each O/R name component. Use
these labels when addressing an X.400 recipient:
Label O/R name component
PR PRMD or Private Domain
SU Surname
GI Given name
IN Initials
GE Generational Qualifier
OR Organization
UN Organizational Unit
DD or DDA Domain-defined Attribute
Note there is no label for ADMD. MCI Mail subscribers place
that value in the EMS field.
Regards,
--
James.Gorak@mixcom.com
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