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In article <Jan.22.16.45.24.1993.25448@pilot.njin.net> giacobbe@pilot.njin.net (Jeff Giacobbe) writes:
>Is anyone out there using Z-mail in an environment of Suns, Vaxen, and
>tty terminals?

I use it on HPUX and like it a whole lot.

>1) Our department contains a mix of the above hardware, in addition to
>terminal emulation software on Mac and PC's (when users dial in from
>home).

I understand the Macintosh, DOS, and Windows ports of Zmail are planned.
It works well on Suns -- better than mailtool.  I use it in line mode
when logged in from home with my vt220 and that also works fine.

>2) It's hard to get folks to use a full-featured GUI point-and-click
>mailer on their workstations (e.g. Sun's Mailtool) and then have them
>switch gears (and mailers) when they dial in from home on a text-based
>terminal.

If they only have a tty at home then they won't get GUI features, but
zmail is the same except for GUI when used with my vt220 from home.

>3) Both UnixWorld and the Sun Observer think Z-mail is the best thing
>since the Smart Clapper(tm).

It is pretty darned good.  When they fully implement 100% MIME
compliant Zmail (reportedly under way now), it will be even better.

>So, will Z-mail really live up to all it's promises of
>interoperability and portablitily among GUI's and terminal types? 

I think Zmail is a good multiplatform choice.

I have no connection with the Zmail folks other than as a satisfied
customer.

In article <Jan.22.16.45.24.1993.25448@pilot.njin.net> giacobbe@pilot.njin.net (Jeff Giacobbe) writes:
>Is anyone out there using Z-mail in an environment of Suns, Vaxen, and
>tty terminals?

We have all the above here. The people here that use Z-mail are
primarily workstation users, both Suns and X terminals. They
seem to like it a lot, but don't mind too horribly using Elm with
MIME support or Pine from home. The VMS folks stick to Mail-11,
mostly because it's so tied into VMS that it's hard to avoid it.

>3) Both UnixWorld and the Sun Observer think Z-mail is the best thing
>since the Smart Clapper(tm).

Sun Observer thinks 'acc' is a neat idea too, so I'm inclined to
think less of their opinion. Zmail's a nice package, but it's not
the be-all/end-all. The Andrew mail system is probably more
mature, and it's free -- and has a fairly usable text-only interface.

>are my users stuck with VMS mail on the Vax, Quickmail on the Mac,
>Mailtool and or MM on the Sun, etc ,etc, etc...

The VMS people are pretty much stuck with VMS Mail (or MM if you
have TGV Multinet). Everybody else seems pretty happy with Elm
with MIME mods or Pine, or even RiceMAIL on CMS. 


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